Google to fire all PMs

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behenchodh

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behenchodh
Apr 20, 2017 164 Comments

What the fuck do they do anyway

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  • Amazon
    hittheband

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    hittheband
    Make the technology desirable for the 99.9% of the population that aren't engineers.
    Apr 20, 2017 7
    • Microsoft / Eng
      MemeEngr

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      MemeEngr
      @sweettom, if only there was a way to declaratively and concisely define the exact functionality of an app without writing Assembly... oh wait, that's exactly what programming using frameworks and managed code is. The future you speak of will never happen.
      Apr 22, 2017
    • Tableau / Eng
      CDC19

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      CDC19
      sure but do we need one per team? I think there is a place for pm / ux experience but the ratio to engineers is wayyyy too high.
      Apr 22, 2017
  • PayPal
    xoom

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    xoom
    Fellas. Someone has to do this work. If they are fired then who else but you will do this work. So stop bitching abt others work and focus on yours.
    Apr 20, 2017 3
  • Google
    Switchteam

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    Switchteam
    If u see your PM is useless it means he is doing his job very well
    Apr 20, 2017 3
    • Google
      eviltora

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      eviltora
      I don't think they are doing well if I have to keep tell them how apps work, how to test, write sql for them. and rely on me to communicate with other teams, speak up in the meeting
      Apr 22, 2017
    • Amazon
      🤘✌️🤞

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      It's pretty damning when PMs need to tell engineers how to test. I haven't seen this too often at Amazon but definitely a lot at previous companies. Why are you putting your PMs in that position?
      Apr 23, 2017
  • Dropbox
    zac

    Dropbox

    zac
    P==Product || P==Program ?
    Apr 20, 2017 8
  • As an IC honestly, what do eng managers do?
    Apr 21, 2017 6
    • Microsoft / Eng
      AmIEvil

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      My face is long forgotten, my face not my own.
      AmIEvil
      Oh, sooo many things. Including what is ostensibly product and project management's job (I guess it isn't).
      Apr 22, 2017
    • Amievil that depends what you think product is. Literally no em knows how to do cohort analysis or what retention metrics are. I had to build a freaking telemetry pipeline to third party solutions because em doesn't know anything and neither do designers. They take a lot of shit from upper management and promote you that is literally their main function. They can't code anymore they're effectively shitty PMs. I think however they're necessary and a truly flat system wouldn't work
      Apr 22, 2017