So, I recently posted about Microsoft vs Amazon offers and everyone asked me to take the Microsoft offer. Now I have a Google offer too and my situation has changed (a bit) with Amazon.
This is a big decision (personally) and would really like to get you guys' opinion :)
Education: MS
YOE: 2
Google:
Base: $175k
Stocks: $360k over 4 years (25% per year)
Perf bonus: 15%
Sign-on: $35k
TC:. $300k (= 175 + 15% + 360/4 + 35/4)
Location: Mountain View, CA
Details: L4 ML SWE at either youtube or google search ads
Microsoft:
Base: $155k
Stocks: $225k over 4 years (25% per year)
Perf. Bonus: 10%
Sign-on: $100k ( 50k each for years 1,2)
TC: $252k (= 155 + 10% + 225/4 + 100/4)
Location: Seattle, WA
Details: Applied Scientist (L62) with Bing
Amazon:
Base: $175k
Stocks: 80 RSUs (5-15-40-40 split)
Sign-on: $100k (year 1), $80k (year 2)
TC:. $287k (= total compensation over 4 years divided by 4, at today's stock price; ~$292k-$296k-280k-$280k across 4 years)
Location: San Francisco, CA
Details: L5 ML Engineer (with a confidential team)
Note: My Amazon recruiter is willing to get my TC to upto $305k provided I take their offer for sure.
Okay, so which one is better?! Not just in terms of exact TC. Here are some questions I am having.
1. Google tc is better only by ~6k compared to Microsoft's just after tax. Is it worth it?! Expected a lot more from Google!
2. I like my Microsoft team the most. Also the role there is considered at much higher standards compared to the other two. Going into a more research role would, I feel, set me up for a much better life in the long run ( I really like research)
3. I tried to get matched to a ML SWE role with Google Brain/Research but couldn't. Can I switch internally IF needed in the future?
4. My google recruiter told me I may get ~33% stock refreshers grant after year 1. Is it true? How likely is it?!
5. I don't wanna talk to my amazon recruiter, get that huge ~20k jump and then renege them. Is it worth considering Amazon?! I liked the team and they are made of hyper-smart people.
5. Any other thoughts?
Thank you so much for your valuable time!
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The offer is a top band l5 offer you have from Amazon. Try to figure out what the wlb and type of people you work with are like. And see if the team publishes papers etc. It might not be such a bad choice.
Of course, google def looks better in your resume. Amazon perhaps based on statistics alone could be a bad place to join. But don't write it off without doing some research.
I don't wanna ask about WLB to my recruiter. What do you think?!
Btw, the team has super-smart people (like codeforces #2 and IOI winner etc.)
Sounds like your gut is telling you the MS research team is something you want to do, and at your YOE that matters a whole lot more.
Comments about TC refreshers and WLB at Google are pretty spot on, but MS then Google/something else will be better for your career than going straight to Google in a role you like less.
Something that might be common knowledge that I don't see stated often enough is that job hopping is basically required to get promoted to higher levels beyond Google L5, unless you are very patient and politically fortunate.
Doing something that provides good experience and work history to work in an area you prefer is much more valuable. The other stuff about TC and WLB matters less now and more when you're a couple levels higher, especially since you're already capable of getting some pretty great offers (congrats btw!)