Like are there any companies like Sherwin Williams or Ford or ExxonMobil or cvs or something that have good tech salaries?
Exxon's IT is terrible as an organization. The VP of the ORG has no IT background at all, for starters. Stay away.
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If they had/have, they won’t be threatened by tech big companies. They generally depend on third party small companies. Some times they buy them and innovation stops there. Leaders are not tech by themselves. They have no clue if budget given is justified. They fund wrong projects. Cut budget before product takes meaningful shape. Basically it’s only mater of time these will collapse and big tech will take over. Few that fight: Walmart, Oracle, etc