Google or Facebook or stay at Amazon?

Amazon
mSLg55

Go to company page Amazon

mSLg55
Oct 16, 2020 387 Comments

I have an offer from Google (L5), FB (E5) and I am currently L5 at Amazon. I am on track to get promoted to L6 at Amazon (maybe Q1 2021). Which one should I pick?

Current TC at Amazon: 240k (stock inflation has brought it close to 475k) for next year.

FB Offer 400k
Google offer 380k

Still negotiating ...

I am in a really good team within Amazon. But the tools are shit. I spend most of my time working around broken tools and feel like I am not maximising my potential.

I matched with what seems like a good team within Google. Facebook team also looks decent. I have positive signal about it. Maybe not as technically solid as the Google team, but still pretty good.

My background: ML PhD.

5141 PARTICIPANTS SELECT ONLY ONE ANSWER
VOTE VIEW RESULT

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 387 Comments
  • Uber
    rnw18.wb

    Go to company page Uber

    rnw18.wb
    I would recommend Google. I am there right now in an ML team. Very similar to you, have PhD.
    I have bias but hear me out.
    The technology and culture surrounding ml/ai is really good here. They really stress the importance of it in the team. And all ml/ai teams are high impact and great visibility. The tooling is superb which makes you spend all your time focusing on your work and not fixing shit stuff. Lot of learning opportunities, growth and strong technical foundation
    Oct 16, 2020 14
    • @capgemini : Well tensor flow , tpus the tech executives probably saw the value so makes sense to use the best brains in developing them . But unless the tool helps enhance productivity significantly to achieve time to market sooner or has some real revenue tied model I think even Google, facebook would love to just purchase . Sort of like no need to reinvent the wheel and no need to employ the best on them kinda thing
      Oct 16, 2020
    • I don’t think you realize how much effort G puts into tooling. Dev infra is completely unmatched, they are leagues ahead of everyone, almost all in house. The same is definitely true for ML research and serving infra

      They were like the innovator in that respect, to really invest in dev productivity as it’s own thing (not tied to big product launches)

      Dono about FB tho. I would guess they cargo culted that mentality but probably not to the same extent (with the motto move fast break stuff)
      Oct 16, 2020
  • How long at Amazon? 475k at L5 seems insane.
    Oct 16, 2020 16
  • Amazon
    crKS71

    Go to company page Amazon

    crKS71
    Fighting for promo at Amazon is stupid. You will be put bottom of the next band. Goto Google and enjoy your life.
    Oct 16, 2020 2
  • Bro, seems like this is very serious problem! Here I am having fun on a Friday evening sipping beer and there you are struggling with all these offers! I feel for you man. You’ll get through this 😊
    Oct 16, 2020 1
  • Lyft
    RBvG77

    Go to company page Lyft

    RBvG77
    Your current TC is 475k. It’s irrational for G to think you would join them at a 95k paycut. I would ask them to at least match and ideally exceed your current comp.
    Oct 16, 2020 10
    • That’s not true. Avg is 304 on levels, with the bottom being much lower
      Oct 18, 2020
    • Amazon
      echosmith

      Go to company page Amazon

      echosmith
      Amazon Applied Scientist is not on Levels.FYI

      I'm an AS who got promoted to L6 earlier this year with a similar TC as OP, and I know how Amazon's structure puts you at the bottom of the next band after promotion. Another couple of friends got promoted at the same time and we all had target comps of 340 and actual comps lower or higher due to past ratings and stock stuff.
      Oct 18, 2020