Tech IndustryDec 15, 2018

MSR vs Google Brain

Which one is better to join in 2018 as a researcher: Microsoft Research or Google Brain? What are some pros and cons?

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Dr šŸ¦ Dec 15, 2018

Wow. Congrats! Did you get both offers? Willing to share TC and profile? Both are great but I like the sound of Google Brain :)

Apple Icml2017 Dec 15, 2018

I will go for Google Brain. MSR was quite awesome but of late, lots of people have left and people from MSR have been accommodated to other product related orgs (at least in computer vision space, I know a few examples).

Amazon Rjm OP Dec 15, 2018

Do you think MSR gives more independence and flexibility to the researchers (assuming it is not a product related org)?

Microsoft Banksyo Dec 15, 2018

They have problem on leadership. They donā€™t know whether they should focus on research or do more product. I think msrā€™s time already passed

Northrop Grumman (Ī©,A,Ī¼) Dec 15, 2018

Think it depends, brain id you're into ML and MSR most other areas of CS

McMaster-Carr @FANG Dec 15, 2018

This. MSR does aresearch in other areas such as randomized algorithms, distributed systems and crypto.

Facebook InstagrŠ°m Dec 15, 2018

Thereā€™s a mass exodus from MSR to G Brain and FB AML/FAIR

Amazon Rjm OP Dec 15, 2018

Yes, I know for established researchers who went on to found their new groups. How about early career researchers?

Facebook imMk51 Dec 15, 2018

If you're in ML, you likely won't find more freedom than at FAIR, even if you're junior (though Brain is close).

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Fllj57 Dec 15, 2018

When I left MS for Google, it seemed like MSR was losing all of their top talent to Google. Iā€™d take this as a pretty strong signal.

Microsoft Doodle2 Dec 15, 2018

If youā€™re an early stage researcher (<7 years out of PhD), MSR is the best. All the freedom in the world to work on anything you want. After 7 years, you may want to grow elsewhere or at MSR. But for early stage researchers MSR is still the best if you care about freedom. Disclosure: MSR researcher.

Microsoft cnskksna Dec 15, 2018

Google Brain is no brainer.

Microsoft teiw62 Dec 15, 2018

Why the views in the post is totally different from I have heard myself? My PhD friends from top CS programs said MSR is far best place if you want to do research

Facebook InstagrŠ°m Dec 15, 2018

It used to be

Apple Hello20 Dec 15, 2018

A lot of people here are merely engineers without research background. MSR people do real research. People in google brain are more likely to be engineers.

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Microsoft shatner Dec 20, 2018

I dig your screen name

Microsoft Draaake Dec 16, 2018

MSR is just a bunch of lazy slackers who toss out worthless papers. Brain is headed by Jeff Dean