Offer decision Google vs fb

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to.frl

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to.frl
Apr 21, 2021 16 Comments

Would you pick Facebook E5 over google at L5, if the role is more exciting with a clearer path to E6?
Might get in on a project at the very beginning before it starts to grow (at Fb)

Google / Fb : 200k, 700k, 50k sign on
(Fb might go up another 50k in signing bonus) #machinelearning

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  • Google
    Byzz

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    Byzz
    Seattle or Bay Area? YoE? Honestly choose Google if you want decent WLB, choose FB if you want more money but worse WLB. Work is really team dependent in each company. Do you know which org you'll be joining within Google? If GCP then just choose FB as WLB may end up being similar but refreshers will be lower.

    Also internal promos at Google are really tough so another vote for FB if you're looking to move up fast.
    Apr 21, 2021 4
    • Apple
      to.frl

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      to.frl
      OP
      Thanks! Primary concern with current team I matched is that the impact radius is really small, I don't think L6 is possible even in 4 years unless the team launches a product that's amazing.
      Apr 22, 2021
    • Google
      Byzz

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      Byzz
      Hmm in that case you'd spend one year on that team and then switch teams (which will reset your promo trajectory) and then another 2-3 years to work towards L6 promo. It's doable but you'll need to ensure the team you transfer yo has L6 level work / opportunities
      Apr 22, 2021
  • id probably pick fb even if the role was less exciting, just for faster upward mobility
    Apr 21, 2021 2
  • Apple
    to.frl

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    to.frl
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    Update: Google went up to 210k, 750k, 50k signing. Going with Google!
    Apr 23, 2021 4
    • Honest question - is youtube not leveraged for negative aspects as well? I know I do generally have a more positive POV and regularly watch videos on YouTube. But thereโ€™s a lot of bad stuff on there too.
      Apr 24, 2021
    • Apple
      espresso.

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      espresso.
      For sure! I actually have a nuanced view of what I'm trying to avoid.

      Mis information and hate speech are prevalent and content is hosted in every platform. The difference for me is having the social aspect (posts, news feed with echo chamber effects) amplifies the spread at a much faster rate. It amplifies spread of good information too. It's the people that use these platforms who are to be blamed at the end of the day. I'm a cynic so I don't see an easy way out of it and I'm worried there would be more cases like Myanmar. Fb will get a lot of hate and bad rep for it, even though it was the people.

      One way to go about this could be to join one of the teams at Facebook that work on detecting hate and misinformation and help contain it. They could not match me with Applied ML teams who worked on that. I found a match in FRL as a research engineer. Even though FRL has awesome products, unless Fb earns trust with large sectors of population and gets over this bad rep I believe it's hard to sell a device with lots of cameras that actively sense the scene.

      There's no holier than thou attitude, it's just a practical take on which product's future I'm more excited about and why

      (Same op, different username)
      Apr 24, 2021
  • Google
    trapthe๐ŸŒง๏ธ

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    trapthe๐ŸŒง๏ธ
    Get Google L5 and interview for Facebook E6
    Apr 21, 2021 0
  • The good thing about facebook E5 is that there is a complete mismatch of demand and supply, a single E5 in fb now gets 30+ reachouts, basically you are the king, you can do anything you want. Facebook is the place where you as an engineer do what you want and learn - not sure if this is a place where you want to retire or relax, this is the place to learn, grow and become a better stronger engineer. Thats it.
    Apr 23, 2021 1