Amazon URA targets during COVID

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DjTn36

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DjTn36
Feb 1, 2021 12 Comments

Is it meeee or does anyone else have an issue with the URA targets this year and the fact that they don’t take into account the massive profits the company saw in the wake of Covid?!!! Really, how conscionable is it to PIP folks (and potentially terminate, thus they lose health insurance) in the midst of a global pandemic?!! #severance #layoff #ura #amazon

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  • Apple / Eng
    yuriy

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    Amazon, Google
    yuriy
    It's Amazon, it has this weird determination about treating unskilled and highly-skilled employees the same way, what else did you expect?
    Feb 1, 2021 0
  • Amazon
    Bello674

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    Bello674
    Amazon just keep turning the wheel on the grinder. I understand that it is higher percentage this year and being more closely enforced too.

    Wave goodbye to the experienced talent and say hello to the newbies for the next round of PIP roulette.

    ... and the word spreads, offers extended to good talent are turned down and even the new Grads and visa hires ask questions now but we *definitely* are hiring replacements who are better than fifty percent of the current staff for each role definitely definitely definitely.

    This is not time to read the fairy tale of The Kings New Clothes.
    Feb 1, 2021 1
    • Amazon / Eng
      eisenhower

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      eisenhower
      This! Even though FB has URA targets too, and they are higher than Amazon's, at least they gave everyone "meets" in 2020.
      Feb 1, 2021
  • Amazon
    KarmaLord

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    KarmaLord
    It’s not clear Amazon is dripping in profits. Because of Covid, sales have gone way up because everyone is shopping online, but that doesn’t mean profits went up. It’s quite possible the burst in sales actually eroded any profits they normally have since they had to spend so much on fulfillment just to ensure purchases were delivered. I guess we’ll find out more on Tuesday when they announce earnings.

    But regardless, a poor performing employee is often bad for a whole team, dragging down progress and frankly fun of working. I realize it sucks to be the person that’s not performing well, but people that are managed out from Amazon move on to other companies that aren’t as demanding and have perfectly fine lives, often better because they aren’t as stressed. Pips are seen as this scary thing, but in the end everyone is typically happier. It would be so much better and less stressful if people realized that, but unfortunately due to the Dunning-Kruger effect they rarely do.
    Feb 1, 2021 2
    • Amazon
      fHBg33

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      fHBg33
      Yes, if you work hard and perform, you are safe.

      I was so scared of this culture myself but I think I have come to realize that 'most' people who perform do well at Amazon .

      Another way to look at it is while Amazon is making annual churns, other companies fire multiple orgs in one go in the name of right sizing. Atleast here you know what ur getting into.

      PS: I say 'most' cause there are always exceptions and people do end up with bad managers at times.
      Feb 1, 2021
    • Amazon
      KarmaLord

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      KarmaLord
      It’s always possible at any company that you’ll have a bad manager that you don’t get along with or is just a numbnuts. But in general, yeah, if you do a good job you’re better than safe, you’ll learn a lot at Amazon and be well rewarded.

      Amazon is perhaps a bit tougher when it comes to performance management, setting a higher bar for talent. But a lot of good employees prefer that, as working with poor performers is really draining. It only takes one or two poor performers on a team to really fuck things up for everyone. And of course due to the Dunning-Kruger effect, those poor performers think they are great and it’s everyone else that’s out to get them so they come here and cry how unfair and cruel Amazon and their manager is, when in reality the manager is just responding to feedback from the rest of the team and the fact the employee in question hasn’t delivered much.
      Feb 1, 2021
  • Amazon
    H8amazon

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    H8amazon
    I hear what your saying at it is a horrid way to treat people, especially during a pandemic. Others here who defend the practice and tell people to leave if they don't like it hasn't ever been put in the position.

    I'm a bit older and have had to survive many downturns and one day it will happen to the arrogant ones, they are either young & privileged and it hasn't happened to them yet or older and are shield by their level. Karma is a fickle bi@#h and it eventually will get you one way or another. I'm always surprised by the attitudes here on blind, I guess having empathy for others is some sort of weakness, I will take being weak any day over selling my soul!
    Feb 5, 2021 0
  • Amazon
    fHBg33

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    fHBg33
    Amazon did revise their ura targets this year. If ur not aware of it, it's probably ur org leader who is keen on delivering beyond targets😬
    Feb 1, 2021 1