Microsoft L63 Offer Eval

Apr 22 29 Comments

With DD stock crash I started to look elsewhere. Got an L63 Offer recently. What y'all think?

Location: Redmond WA
Base: 180k
Stock: 300k (over 4 years)
Sign-On: 120k (over 2 years)

Current TC: 245k (DD stock 🤡)
YOE: 5

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TOP 29 Comments
  • Fuck that's good.
    63 here with 160k base and none of this given when I joined 3 years ago.
    I'm vwmf.

    SLT will not fix comp for existing folks when they're handing these TC's out.
    Apr 22 1
  • I feel you could do better. 5yoe are getting 400k easy right now. Do not join Microsoft
    Apr 23 3
    • Literally every other company.

      Amazon, meta, Google, Uber, Lyft, Coinbase, Roblox, LinkedIn, Dropbox, box, cruise, stripe, Twitter, apple, Bytedance, Roku, snowflake, door dash, databricks, Airbnb, square, Netflix, Pinterest, snap, Instacart, Robinhood.....I could keep going on

      400k is the new normal.
      I myself have 3 offers above 500k with lesser experience
      Apr 30
    • Microsoft
      gone!🖼🎉🌙

      Go to company page Microsoft

      gone!🖼🎉🌙
      This is the truth… senior gets 350-400k for seattle outside Microsoft.
      4d
  • Great offer, but just know that after 2-3 years you’ll need to leave because you won’t continue to make this if you stay. Even many L65s/L66 don’t make 342k/year.
    Apr 22 2
    • OP
      Yeah makes sense. The recruiter said refreshers are still "up to 45k" or so. Which even if maxed definitely won't be able to match the initial grant.
      Apr 22
    • 60: 0-16k
      61: 0-24k
      62: 0-32k
      63: 0-44k
      64: 0-60k
      65: 0-90k
      66: 0-160k

      Target stock refresher will be 22k for L63. It’s exceptionally rare to get the full max (44k in your case) so don’t even factor that into your consideration.
      Apr 22
  • At L64 I have 180k base + 170k stocks, so that offer is really good.
    Apr 23 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    0x00002A

    Go to company page Microsoft Eng

    0x00002A
    That is crazy good for L63. They weren’t giving out offers in this ballpark 6 months ago. You should take it.
    Apr 22 3
    • Yes they are. Kathleen has a numbers proposal she's working for approval with the numbers peeps. No idea how good it will be tho or if it will come (now fb has a hiring freeze).

      Kathleen has to push for this afterwards more abysmal comp poll results this yr and the realer reasons, huge attrition (especially specialized folks like ar/ai) and huge lowering in hiring capabilities. We've had open spots for months, interviewed tons of people and we are never getting the FANG candidates who have other offers. So to fix hiring/attrition all numbers will probs go up. I'm praying it is aligning the yearly stock with Google but that's a pipe dream xD
      Apr 23
    • New
      pipproof

      New

      pipproof
      Msft has so many hiring events in Atlanta and now dallas too. That's how I got in. Yall still struggling to hire
      Apr 23