s386 ROW,China, India United

Oct 5, 2019 57 Comments

If you agree keep retweeting this link every day, Don't put efforts on other option which are not going to work, we need to come together as legal resident.

https://twitter.com/ResidentUs/status/1180530051332206594?s=20

I have been watching for few days the news on S386/HR1044 , the bill has created a perfect
divide between the ROW, India and China (Specially the EB5), I understand the plight of Indian and Chinese(Eb5) where they worried more about their H4 Kids which are aging out. They not worried about their greencard, they are fighters with all the visa renewal process.

But at the same time we need to understand we cannot have this problem passed on to the Kids of ROW.

S386 kind of solution will create division among Genuine Hardworking Legal Tax Paying Resident.

Solution needs to be such that which is win win for everyone(ROW,China,India and President) and here is what I propose.

Currently the biggest challenge is not the 7% country cap, but the inclusion of FAMILY MEMBERS
in Employment visa category.

Due to this even if a country with 7% cap gets 10K visa, every family members are added to it the greencard count get reduced to 1/3 (3.3K).

We should try to have a Bill Passed which will have the Employment Category greencard only for the Employees. For Spouse/Kid use greencard from Family category quota (which are more than 1/2 million) . This will make everyone happy.

India Eb2/Eb3 backlog will be cleared in 3 years
China EB5 backlog will be cleared in 4 years.
China Eb3/2 will become current.
ROW will have more Greencard, which will spill over to backlog countries.
President goal of having family visa only for Spouse and Kids.
And last we can have a 5K Dollar Border security fee added to the Employment Greencard, which will help them collect 1 Billion Annually.

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TOP 57 Comments
  • Facebook Pbuj80
    I’m Chinese living in states. I don’t care about s386;

    If it fails, nothing changes, not bad;

    If it passes, the US makes a huge mistake of stopping talents coming from globe except India, especially China. Which really solves a problem for China from her perspective that most top students flow into US every year.
    As China is getting stronger (including the living standard and pay) day by day, I don’t think it’s a bad thing either.
    Oct 5, 2019 3
    • Facebook Pbuj80
      I don’t know who do you mean ‘they’, but if s386 passes, no one but Indians can get gc in the following decades
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      Yes those who are already backlogged. Those who are coming now will get GC alongside the fellow Indians.

      This is where I feel the bill should have been less aggressive and talked about 10 year ramp.
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Amazon creedmoor
    The root cause is the bar to qualify for eb3 is embarrassingly low and Indian consulting companies took advantage of that by spamming zillions of garbage applications. Eb2 then got clogged up when these spam applications graduated to that queue just for working five years in their dead and job.

    The solution is to raise the minimum qualification and send the low quality applicants packing.

    Either put on place a points system, or else just raise the minimum qualification so they no longer qualify.

    Either solution will get quick greencards to those in good companies.
    Oct 5, 2019 2
    • VMware ErGp06
      OP
      I support merit based plan if that get enacted but plan is to have family member removed from employment and use family greencard
      Oct 6, 2019
    • Amazon creedmoor
      The best way to merge them is through a points system that checks your overall merit not only based on employment but on all factors.

      Add points for having family connections in the US.

      Especially when you look at these low skilled consulting applications from India it's not clear that any of them are better for the country than someone with ANY skilled job also has family here. In addition, from among those low skilled applicants I prefer those the have family here.

      I'd take an electrician or a plumber with family in the US ahead of yet another $80k/yr IT worker, even if the IT guy has some bogus master's from some fourth rate school.
      Oct 6, 2019
  • Microsoft waca
    So what will happen to kids n spouse?
    Oct 5, 2019 17
    • Intel mtbf
      Family based green card has a long wait. Doesn’t make sense to separate families by putting them on another queue.
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Microsoft research12
      @VMware is ok with separation of families based on origin country.
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Cruise Automation nicolase
    There you go. I thought about S386 and I realized they have failed from the beginning even if it looks promising. They just made an enemy out of everybody else. The the only possible solution has to be a win win for all parties.
    Oct 5, 2019 0
  • Amazon / R&D QLaD47
    Wait time for others except for India and China will blow up compare to now
    Oct 5, 2019 1
    • Facebook Pbuj80
      Wait time for Chinese will blow up as well in the first 10 years. There is no benefit for people other than Indians
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Amazon / R&D QLaD47
    I am neither Chinese nor Indian. I against S386 because I did not see any benefit to me.
    Oct 5, 2019 1
    • VMware ErGp06
      OP
      Agreed that why 5k dollar added for border security
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Intel Cloud_DC
    Now if you move spouse to F2A the backlog will increase to 10 years or more. Your solution just transfers the backlog from one category to next. Doesn’t really solve the problem.

    Ratio on an average will be 2:1 atleast that is moving Wife and kid to family based which might backlog Family based.
    Oct 5, 2019 12
    • Intel Cloud_DC
      Your solution makes no sense VMware. Read up on how the processing is done.
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Microsoft research12
      If we don't make an effort system will never change. As I said I am no can of 386 but your solution just moves discrimination to families which is worse than current situation
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Groupon / Eng sleepy
    First, this is clearing backlog by providing additional visas and that would be blocked by immigration hawks. Second, this doesn’t address discrimination against which I’m talking about. Discrimination by country of birth is useless and bad. Third, I think the better alternative is to include legal sin DACA bill.
    Oct 5, 2019 6
    • VMware ErGp06
      OP
      You bad at math dear 🙌
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Groupon / Eng sleepy
      No man, currently around 40k applicants come under green card. And their spouse and kids are included to make it to 120k. Your proposal, if I understand correctly, will allow 120k applicants to get GC. It’s the same way Diversity Visa works. On DV, even the lottery winners are ~65k, with their immediate relatives 120k actually come in.

      This is something Cato is writing about for a while.
      Oct 5, 2019
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    Good proposal.
    Oct 5, 2019 2
    • Facebook / Eng pookyh
      Solid name
      Oct 5, 2019
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      Thank you 😊
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Intel Cloud_DC
    F2A for Indians and most of the countries are backlogged by 2 to 3 years. Which spouse is going to wait even longer? Goodluck man.
    Oct 5, 2019 2
    • VMware ErGp06
      OP
      Why they have to wait they will be there with EAD which is as good as greencard
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Intel Cloud_DC
      This is assuming that they can file 485 and get an Ead. The process is I130 first and wait for PD to be current to file 485. Spouse and children in F2A has to to wait for PD to be current to file 485. Second the sponsor has to be a GC holder to apply for his spouse and children.
      Oct 5, 2019

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