Recently got these SWE new grad offers and I gotta decide soon.
Amazon - Seattle
1st Year TC: $159,000 ($118k after tax)
2nd Year TC: $155,000 ($116k after tax)
VMware - Palo Alto
1st Year TC: $177,500 ($119k after tax)
2nd Year TC: $150,000 ($101k after tax)
I know Amazon gets a bad rap… but it’s still Amazon.
VMware isn’t a popular name but will it hurt my long term prospects? It has a comparable salary, at least for the first year… (They said not negotiable)
Any insight is appreciated
Current TC: 0k
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However VMware also has unlimited PTO which is a trap, as we all know. Id rather take the 10 days PTO at Amazon that I'm rightfully entitled to than take 0 days at VMware due to fear of PIP
Unlimited PTO is only for this year and no one takes 2-3 months PTO, it's more like a week in 2-3 months.
People at Amazon are so afraid of PIP that they think it's everywhere.
PIP in VMware doesn't exist practically, only incompetent middle management folks gets laid off.
VMware will negotiate, just tell them about the competing Amzn offer. Give them a number little higher than what you expect. I found their HR to be really nice to work with!
Amazon has a bad rap on blind and IMO too. But it's a really good place to develop your skill set, something you might miss at VMware as a new grad!
I would personally take Amzn and then in a year or two jump to another company for an early sde-2 equivalent position.
They didn’t even negotiate and their team matching is a shitty process .
I would say , keep interviewing , as you’re a new grad you’d probably get a better offer at Microsoft , though they lowball sde2s , their new grad offers are usually good .
If you have to really choose between amazon and VMware , if it’s not too much a risk , write an email to both the recruiters and say that you’re really interested the opportunity talking and mention about your competing offers and say that meeting your pay expectations by beating the offer will make the offer acceptance process much easier ?
Not sure , if something can be done or if this will work , but just a thought .
That being said , I’d still say to keep trying for more interviews as the market is really hot right now.
Especially Amazon is struggling with hiring because it’s such a shitty place.
At the end no matter what offer you accept , don’t worry too much your future prospects as both of them are comparable .
Maybe if you’re really wanting to care about brand . You can consider Joining amazon and get out in a year or two if possible .