I have 9 yoe and I passed 2 interviews inly in my hole career. I worked in 6 different companies, after joining multiple companies I saw how low the bar is and start thinking wth are you measuring in the interview ??? Companies are hiring leet coders and people that already watched 10s of system design videos, that does not mean you hired a good engineer at all “YOU JUST HIRED SOMEONE DECIDED TO WASTE MONTHS ON INTERVIEW PREPARATION” I joined 2 companies after months from getting interview rejection but after joining I was top performer for every single year till now. That happens to me twice (first one joined after a strong referral and the second one I joined after the acquisition) But honestly I do not know what should be the best way to hire software engineers. TC: 590 Please add your thoughts we should find a better way and I am sure we can change the current process.
Hiring system is broken. Don't even want to talk about contract jobs. I really hope the system changes. I have reached that stage where I'm accepting "it is like this, you have to follow this path to get a job, might as well blend in". I really hope someone could challenge and change the system
Also, to add, if there is any change to hiring, it is to make it even harder than it is now since the over-saturation in junior roles.
If you’re planning to have the candidate spend 5 hours interviewing, might as well give them an ambiguous problem to solve and work with them all day. Asking 5 random questions is pretty meaningless. The context switch is a waste of time.
agreed. I hope you suggest this to your leadership as well.
I already suggested that after I shadowed mid level engineer and saw him asking hard questions he cannot solve beside he is really low performing engineer, I did the shadowing because I saw many rejections coming from him
Have the same feeling - the game is rigged
Topic is highly debatable OP. But lots of companies these days are moving to different way of interviewing. Example : take home assessments closely related to work being done in team, 1 week of working with team and that too being paid for!!! But Alas, lazy interviewers in faang and similar companies have ruined the process. These days they just copy paste problem statement and ask candidates to go through themselves 😂
Every manager wants a kick ass performer who farts unicorn rainbow, so they ask the toughest question which even they couldn’t answer had they been asked those questions, so candidates just do what the interviewers want. It’s a vicious cycle and tough to break. But I had the best interview experience with one team with Apple who gave me a take home assignment which I enjoyed doing and also gave me a good understanding of what was the role, I was not hired but good learning experience.
It’s been broken since 2000, you would think the companies would get smarter and find a way to update it so it works to everyone’s benefit, but hell no. I attempted to change the process at my previous employer and have them do onsite coding on a laptop for 3 hours, but the one time I tried it was with a terrible candidate, so wasn’t convinced this was the best way forward, but now I see other companies (like Quip) doing it. I think take home assignments are the next best thing, just quiz them on that during on-site and skip the whiteboard BS, Basecamp does this FWIW, there is an open source list on GitHub of companies that don’t whiteboard https://github.com/poteto/hiring-without-whiteboards
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Great, thank a lot. We should help maintaining this list. I will share it and please all do so.
HW interview process is broken too 😆
ehh there are companies that dont do LC style interview. Square is one. but I understand your frustration
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