In exchange for GC, will you support ban on H1B?

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nope12

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nope12
Jun 21, 2020 52 Comments

For Indian and Chinese citizens who are facing decades long wait periods for GC, will you support a ban on H1B in exchange for a GC? Are you willing to deny others the opportunity to come to the US in exchange for your own future security and the benefits and certainty a GC provides?

Strictly hypothetical question - in an ideal world the solution would be different. But this is a more interesting question.

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  • Esri
    klokov_v3

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    klokov_v3
    Nope, I am not gonna screw over others because it benefits me. About 15% of H1B are talented EU,Canadians and other Asians as well, they shouldnโ€™t be screwed over if it benefits me, they should get to enjoy working in US Tech like the rest of us.

    P.S : For the same reasons I am against S386 as well. It was will screw over that other 15%โ€™s GCโ€™s and in the end circle back to the same issue for Indians in less than 10 years.
    Jun 21, 2020 4
    • Intel
      dreaMEr14

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      dreaMEr14
      100% this. S386 maybe helps a few years if backlogs but will fuck up the situation for every body else and Indians wouldnโ€™t be far off either.
      Jun 21, 2020
    • Google
      lOBG55

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      lOBG55
      I think fucking of the situation might lead them to finally take any action. Maybe I'm dreaming
      Jun 30, 2020
  • I mentioned this somewhere else too. Indians and anyone who cries about H1B abuse are idiots. They don't understand macro level picture. They only see micro picture.

    1. Every H1B needs a wage level. Wage level are set by DoL.
    2. USCIS/DHS issues the visa.

    Both are government agencies. Why doesn't DoL simply increase wage levels? Why USCIS doesn't reject visa if it is fraud. Point is, it is not fraud. They pay the DoL wage level-1.
    US government controls DoL, USCIS, DHS, courts then how the hell can abuse happen unless US wants it to happen?

    US is capitalist country. You all enjoyed building America on poor people by paying them minimum but when those poor people got some capitalism benefit you cry H1B abuse? Lol. This is hypocrisy at best! Have you Americans ever thought your corporate lobbying and cheap companies wants cheap labor for the US to be competitive so it happens? All you can do is blame someone who came for better life! There is no fraud or abuse, the US allows it LEGALLY and it BENEFITS the US. The day it doesn't, it will end in a week unanimously lol
    P.S - I don't support body shop myself but also can't see abuse hypocrisy by Americans as well as Indians on high horses!
    Jun 22, 2020 9
    • Yelp
      Sto

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      Sto
      But it's not slavery. Indians come here for better money, and they get that money. It's a win win. Cheap for the company, but a huge salary bump for Indians.

      Body shops pay 5k-10k USD per year in India. In US, they pay 60-90k USD in tier 2/3 cities. That's a 10x bump in salary with only a 3-4x increase in cost of living. And intangibles like much better standard of life.

      So no, it's not slavery.
      Jun 28, 2020
    • Yelp
      Sto

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      Sto
      And living peacefully is upto you. If you know that you're here for milking the conversion rate, milk it till you have enough and go to Canada or India or Australia or anywhere you desire.

      And explore the beautiful country and lifestyle while you fill your coffers.
      Jun 28, 2020
  • Flagged by the community.

    • @bokko: I hate those kinds too, the ones that wont assimilate and spoil it for everyone. Sorry about your experience, just know not all of us share the same viewpoint
      Jun 22, 2020
    • Apple
      YBbj54

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      YBbj54
      My team is 99% Indian and they donโ€™t even need to assimilate. Theyโ€™re passive aggressive or hostile and make it really difficult for outsiders to succeed on the team
      Jun 22, 2020
  • Flagged by the community.

    • 1.1M total GCs. Only 140k eb GCs. How do 140k destroy diversity of GC distribution? And what if I told you, currently Indians are not the most GC numbers every year. Whoa! Mind blowing that GC numbers are already f***ing diversity, right?
      Jun 21, 2020
    • Intel
      dreaMEr14

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      dreaMEr14
      Family based GCs are more than EB GCs. Donโ€™t need to fuck with the employment based GCs with pathetic selfish bills like S386. Request for additional GCs or sacrifice family based GCs and clear the employment GC backlog, and then change the system to a merit based system for Christโ€™s sake.
      Jun 21, 2020
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