Apple employees are demoted to Associates after leaving

IBM
s|avery

Go to company page IBM

s|avery
Feb 10 263 Comments

Apple confirms they reclassify all former employees job titles to “Associate” after separating, stripping the employee of whatever title was held. This data is also shared with 3rd party employment history verification services managed by Equifax, Lexis Nexis and others.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/10/apple-associate/

What do you think about an employer reclassifying titles to something generic for job verification?

9890 PARTICIPANTS SELECT ONLY ONE ANSWER
VOTE VIEW RESULT

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 263 Comments
  • New
    rCQT28

    New

    rCQT28
    From the article: The representative said he gets a few calls a month from people trying to get the accurate job titles of former Apple employees. If the caller can provide the employee’s full Social Security number, InVerify is able to look up the person’s old payroll information and verify the job title that way.

    It doesn’t seem like there’s a point to Apple’s name changing if the titles come out eventually
    Feb 10 1
  • Blend
    NutriNinja

    Go to company page Blend

    NutriNinja
    I suspect Apple does this to obscure any titles that may reveal secret R&D and future product investments like Apple Car, etc
    Feb 10 7
    • IBM
      s|avery

      Go to company page IBM

      s|avery
      OP
      Not necessarily, vgcrew. I’ve left roles without having something lined up, partially due to burn out.

      It would be unreasonable to worry about dealing with a job title discrepancy preventing one from starting a new role (due to HR background verification, which usually happens after offer)
      Feb 12
    • Rapid7 / Eng
      ikarus

      Go to company page Rapid7 Eng

      ikarus
      They could obfuscate the title be the leave the level, not Senior Software Engineer, Apple Car, but Senior Software Engineer.
      Feb 12
  • New
    boxK68

    New

    boxK68
    Apple's goal is to be super secretive. But this is a practice that makes employment background checks unnecessarily difficult when ex employees seek new employment.
    Feb 10 7
  • Google
    o6LjnRFa94

    Go to company page Google

    o6LjnRFa94
    What's the purpose of doing this?
    Feb 10 13
    • New / Product
      Brentwood

      New Product

      Brentwood
      This is amazing for apple workers. They can inflate their title and no one will question it since everyone is marked as “associate”.
      Feb 12
    • SAP
      Sikander

      Go to company page SAP

      Sikander
      Question should be why are they storing title in the first place.
      Feb 13
  • Apple
    facemasher

    Go to company page Apple

    facemasher
    Gonna tell people I was a senior VP at my next job interview
    Feb 10 2