WLB and career in NYC

Jan 7, 2021 8 Comments

Dear blind community,
TL;DR
is NYC SWE wlb/career worse than sf/bay area?

Full:
I have been considering moving to NYC after the pandemic is over to stay closer to my family and other personal reasons.
I am a SWE and have been working my whole life in California and bay area and I'm worried about few points in terms of career perspective and WLB:

1- being a SWE here is easy mode. You can get a well paid job even if you are really bad. If you are any good you can get good TC. If you are lucky you can even join a pre IPO and make millions even if you got rejected by good companies. Are the opportunities and salaries the same in NYC? I know that *avg* COL in NYC is lower than SF/bay area, so I guess salaries and RSU will be lower there once you move (less negotiation power) even if companies (like Salesforce) won't cut the salary when you move. E.g. it's much easier to get a 400k tc in bay area and relocate to NYC than find a 400k tc job in NYC

2- is WLB as bad as they say in NYC? Before moving to SF/bay area, I only heard stories about how hard working people were here, but after living here for 5+ years I realized that they might be the 1% of workforce (I used to be one of them), most of people here are coasting hard or doing really little work for crazy high TC. I spoke with acquaintances in NYC and they said working 9am-9pm there is the norm. Is it true or another bs like it was for here?

Thanks
TC ~300k for less than 20h/week

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  • I don’t have much experience in the bay but I don’t see why working at a similar company in a different area would have a big impact on WLB. Salesforce NY is probably the same as Salesforce SF
    Jan 7, 2021 2
    • WLB is mostly cultural/team dependent.
      Here in SF pre-covid you can go to the office 1-2 days at week, be there at 11am and go home at 4pm, no one would say anything.
      From what I heard in NYC, if you leave before 6pm from your office they would look bad at you
      Jan 7, 2021
    • I rephrase my thoughts better:
      California/sf culture is super chill, you can put just few hours and meet the basics and everyone is happy in most of the companies.
      NYC culture I heard is more hustle and I-work-long-hours-thus-im-cool type, meaning that you could be socially excluded at work places and looked down if you don't warm your sit in the office for 10+ hours
      Jan 7, 2021
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    Is 300k TC standard senior TC at salesforce or from stock appreciation?
    Jan 7, 2021 1
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    You shouldn't have created a poll, all the people without direct knowledge will come and vote anyway
    Jan 7, 2021 1
  • I will start with NYC is great and I highly recommend young people live there. But at least for me, I don't see the abundance of those "easy mode" swe jobs here yet. Plenty of jobs but they aren't just giving them away.
    Jan 10, 2021 0