Intel Graphics causes eyestrain and nausea.

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Oct 24, 2021 17 Comments

I get severe eyestrain and nausea from the new Intel Graphics, just tried Lenovo IdeaPad 5, but tried several others. Luckily I don't need to use one for work, but I'm afraid I could become unemployable as an engineer cause of it.

I also get eyestrain on Macs.

The community at LEDStrain.org suspects some kind of flickering, perhaps temporal dithering, pixel shift or something unknown inside this Intel Graphics. Some of us have diagnosed vision issues called binocular vision dysfunction but the treatments have not been effective. Whatever the cause, older hardware is comfortable; the new tech is not. Something new has changed.

I use an old Thinkpad right now.

Neither Intel, Apple nor Microsoft take this issue seriously. I beg of the engineers there to look into this! You are welcome to join us on the forum.

There's a whole community of us at LEDStrain.org.

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  • Intel
    wasqaz

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    wasqaz
    Intel can help if you can prove (via slow motion video or some measurement technique) that it is to blame and that other graphics vendors don't have the same issue. Most likely it's a display flickering issue. I'm surprised why you think Intel graphics is to blame rather than the monitor /panel.
    Oct 25, 2021 3
    • Intel
      wasqaz

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      wasqaz
      Have you done blind A/B testing with Intel / Nvidia? If you can identify it with 100percent accuracy over multiple experiments, you should dig deeper, starting with a high quality slow motion footage.
      Oct 25, 2021
    • Amazon
      ttvkd

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      OP
      I've not done that particular test, but I have with older Intel (2013) vs. newer Iris graphics.

      Same version of Windows 10; older Intel causes no strain but newer hurts my eyes immediately.

      Something is probably flickering but it's not the monitor itself. I don't know if it's temporal dithering or something else. When attached to e-ink displays, we can see dancing pixels...these likely disrupt eye fixation causing the strain. But just a theory.
      Oct 25, 2021
  • Intel
    vivalvida

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    vivalvida
    Most laptops use pwm display, I would use an external monitor (I like dell). If not possible, try using your laptop at max brightness so it doesn't flicker. You can use your phone in video mode to check if your screen is flickering
    Oct 24, 2021 1
    • Amazon
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      OP
      Thanks. I do use max brightness on the laptop and also an external monitor. Unfortunately the nausea and strain exists on both.
      Oct 24, 2021
  • Intel
    wasqaz

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    wasqaz
    If you're serious about fixing the issue, try multiple solutions :

    0. Turn off Intel DPST (display power saving technology). This basically remaps individual pixel brightness to lower the panel brightness in darker scenes and save power even if your laptop brightness is set to max.

    1. Get an amd / Nvidia graphics card and a high quality (dell ultrasharp / lg ips) external monitor

    2. Get an oled monitor/laptop. Oleds have an almost instantaneous response time with zero ghosting.

    Unfortunately until you do multiple experiments to figure out what's really wrong, nobody else can help you.
    Oct 25, 2021 1
  • How does that chain of causality even make sense?
    Oct 24, 2021 1
  • SAP
    ARjz53

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    ARjz53
    Feeling the same way after attempting to play Metro Exodus on a ThinkPad with a nVidia 940. 9 FPS
    Oct 24, 2021 0