Gcp to non gcp team switch

Nov 13, 2021 16 Comments

Hey all, I wanted to know how easy is it to switch from Gcp to non gcp teams in Google after one year? Also what does the team switching process include?
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  • New
    leob81

    New

    leob81
    I quit Google over a year ago. What I say could be out of date, but I doubt it is.

    Inside google there is a web site with job listings. You email the manager and set up a meeting to talk about the job. If the manager chooses you, you make a plan to transition. You are expected to stay in a role for at least 12-18 months. After that, people are understanding if you request a move.

    Google is unusually hostile to the idea that you would work from a different office than your team. If you want to do that, you need a director to fight with HR on your behalf.

    Every few years, Google gets focused on something. In 2011 it was "mobile only", the idea that we should only make phone apps and put the web apps in maintenance mode. In 2014 it was Google+, the idea that all of google was a social network. In 2017 it was "google cloud", the idea that we could compete with AWS. These plans always end in failure. During a period of management obsession with these ideas, hiring focuses on them. Until google gives up on GCP, the headcount available for non-GCP will be tiny. When GCP finally fails, every person in GCP will be trying to get a non-GCP role. The competition will be fierce.

    If you join GCP, have a plan to move to something profitable ASAP. Start 20%ing on a search or ads team in the first six months, so that someone outside GCP knows your work when you hit 12 months and can transfer.
    Nov 13, 2021 9
    • New
      leob81

      New

      leob81
      @geeSeePee: Google has a long history of making claims that are true only under carefully chosen accounting assumptions.

      Is Google still lumping GCP and Google Enterprise into "cloud", so that the profitable enterprise version of gmail and drive cover the losses from GCP? They did this when I worked there...

      Remember when Vic G. got up at every TGIF and explained how Google+ had exponential user growth? And how the reason was that Youtube comments counted as Google+ use?

      Remember when Youtube had a celebration for achieving profitability? And it turned out to be profitable only if the cost of network transit was assumed to be zero, "because we need that anyway for search and ads"?

      I worked at goggle a long time. I have many friends there, and I hope they succeed. But we need to be realistic. The people telling you GCP will be profitable have a large incentive to make GCP look successful. Take their marketing with a large grain of salt.
      Nov 16, 2021
    • Google
      GeeSeePee

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      GeeSeePee
      Thanks Leo. I'm looking at it from the outside. Every qtr we release our numbers and it's trending in that direction. We do disclose that cloud does include workspace. Hoping that when our earnings reports show we are profitable, it'll boost our stock even further!
      Nov 16, 2021
  • Microsoft / Eng
    iotR43

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    iotR43
    Hey, sorry I don’t have an answer but I’m joining google cloud in Sunnyvale. I heard there is bad culture lots of work and similar to aws. Could I get ur opinion on this ? Why do u wana leave ?
    Nov 13, 2021 4
    • Google
      misio

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      misio
      Same. Joined 4m ago and everything is OK. Note: WLB is good, but not 'out of this world good'. Think 35-40h per week. Usually silent after 5pm, maybe 5.30pm.
      Nov 13, 2021
    • Apple
      YbWI55

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      YbWI55
      what sort of team are you guys on? On a higher level no need to expose anything ofc
      Nov 18, 2021
  • Google
    osoA43

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    osoA43
    Yah you can transition to a new team. I got many yes from different teams. It’s still quite time sucking tbh but nothing better than moving to a team of your liking.
    Nov 13, 2021 0