Sharing my offer numbers from big companies for your reference

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Nov 27, 2017 410 Comments

I see many questions on compensation here and would like to help answer some of them with the limited data I have. I'd like to shed some light on what the industry is paying and also encourage people to negotiate hard.

I went on an interviewing spree recently with the big companies for an SWE position and would like to share some offer numbers. The numbers below are all annual figures. I have two years of professional experience.

1) Google - 140k base, 100k RSUs, 50k sign on, 15% bonus

2) Facebook - 160k base, 75k RSUs, 75k sign on, 10% bonus

3) Lyft - 170k base, 180k RSUs, 20k sign on

4) Dropbox - 160k base, 115k RSUs, 10k sign on

5) Airbnb - 150k base, 75k RSUs, 15k sign on

6) Palantir - 150k base, 50k stock options, 25k sign on, 25k bonus

TWO years of experience, figures above are ANNUAL.

I chose FB in the end because the TC was among the highest and I resonate with FB's move fast culture. I enjoyed talking to FB interviewers the most and they made me feel very welcome. Lyft's offer was great but it's not public after all (yet) and I'm more risk adverse. Also, the commute up to SF everyday will kill me.

Curious to know which you would have chosen if you were in my shoes.

EDIT - many commenters are asking similar questions, I'll answer them once and for all here:

1. How did you go about having so many overlapping offers?

I did my phone screens early and arranged all the onsites together at a later date. There was a huge gap between some of my phone screens and onsites. I set recruiter expectations early and told them when I would make a decision. I held some offers for close to a month.

2. What's your background?

Two years of professional experience. Bachelors. Non-ivy league school. Previously from a unicorn startup. I'm mentioning these because people ask, not that I think they matter.

3. How did you prepare for the interviews?

Sadly, do lots of LeetCode. I wouldn't say my method was very optimal as I spent two months and did around 200-300 questions before the interviews. Did all the easy questions, half the medium and a fifth of the hard ones. It's important to get both quantity and quality such that you can identify the pattern of questions on first sight and know what technique to apply. Cover a variety of topics. Don't have the mentality that you won't be tested on DP. Till this day I still do LeetCode for fun as I enjoy doing them. It has become a lifestyle for me. I also used mock interview practice sites. I didn't practice much system design questions as I felt that I was pretty strong in design for my field.

4. Are you bullshitting?

You can believe what you like since it's anonymous after all. Some commenters do agree that such numbers are possible, and they're totally right.

5. Did you get rejected anywhere?

Yes, I got rejected by some smaller startups at the onsite stage.

6. Why didn't you apply to Microsoft, Amazon, Apple <insert big name here>?

I did. I applied to every big company out there. But the application process of large companies is so noisy that chances of getting noticed are so low. Thankfully I had FB and Google referrals else I doubt I would have gotten a reply at all.

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  • Amazon / Eng
    h😎😁🐕

    Amazon Eng

    PRE
    IBM
    h😎😁🐕more
    Wait FB gives u 280k signon in total? WTF
    Nov 27, 2017 15
    • Google / Eng stewart399
      Intel dude is a moron. This is real
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      yep, I got similar G offer with 3 years of experience but at level 4 (more base, less stock)
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Fanta
      What is the top of the band in terms of base for Google T4?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      I guess 165-70 should be top band for level 4
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng
      hhryjfd

      Facebook Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      hhryjfdmore
      Ph.D is equal to two years of experience in current market. Both will get L4/E4 offer.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Dropbox TradeJoe's
    Wow. I am so underpaid
    Nov 27, 2017 1
    • LinkedIn Brighton
      By this standard, yes!
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Oracle l769als7
    Can you explain your negotiation strategy with so many offers?
    Nov 27, 2017 13
    • Amazon / Mgmt Do_it
      Just like buying a car. Don't negotiate. Simply let them battle. Set clear rules. 2 rounds. In 2nd round, start from the lowest/worst offer and ask for their best and final.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Over 200 LC questions. I didn't practice for design qns. They felt quite natural to me
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Expedia Riuk
      Wow! Okay..any specific ratio of easy-med-hard ?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      All the easy, 1/2 the medium, 1/5 of the hard
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Expedia Riuk
      Thank you! This helps
      Nov 29, 2017
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    • Amazon / Mgmt ftEHw
      Related: for how long did the offers stand? ~1w is standard, afaik
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Do your phone screens early and arrange all the onsites together at a later date. There was a huge gap between some of my phone screens and onsites. I took two weeks off to do all the onsites. Most tiring two weeks of my life. Was basically a full-time interviewee
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Regarding how long the offers lasted, I set recruiters expectations early as to when I was able to make a decision. So some of them lasted for a month. Google was the slowest to get back to me (no surprise there)
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Airbnb Bahnah
      Interesting strategy. So you planned the two weeks of pto first and scheduled everything else anchored around those two weeks.

      Did you target fall season bc it might have more recruiting activity, or does that timing not really matter for experienced hires?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      I wouldn't call myself an experienced hire. I didn't target any timing. I was very unhappy at my previous job and that drove me to study hard for interviews. My main source of motivation was to get out of my previous job.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • LinkedIn zwKL72
    Look, OP is clearly a rockstar. Even good people get rejected from interviews. I would suspect these offers are near the high end from all these companies. If your salary is less it doesn’t mean you are underpaid.
    Nov 28, 2017 4
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      I like to think that I lucked out this time. Interviewing success is a function of skill + preparation + luck
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft Fber
      Agreed with OP on the luck aspect and Kudos for recognizing as such. I had similar numbers before coming to FB and thought many of my co workers were more capable than me. Much respect.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google tQoL36
      ^this. I like you, Op!
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Wow. Most likeable humble bragger of all time apparently 😂
      Nov 29, 2017
  • LinkedIn AlgoLover
    So Lyft is 180k stock annually?? :O Wondering why you left a 350k TC at Lyft..
    Nov 27, 2017 2
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Because Lyft stocks aren't worth anything at the moment and I don't really like having to commute to SF everyday.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • LinkedIn AlgoLover
      Hmm makes sense.. Btw may I ask what area do you work in? Is it AI/ML/Data science? Bcos the offers look very high
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Qualtrics Q123
    There's gonna be a lot of leetcoding after reading this... 😁
    Nov 29, 2017 0
  • WRKSHP / Eng
    o_o how are your offers so high? I'm also at close to two years but mine (also multiple offers) are significantly lower (they independently all came up with similar numbers). Do you have any tips on how to negotiate to get better offers?
    Nov 29, 2017 11
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      Ah in that case I guess you were lucky to get the $150k from the smaller one in the first place. But that makes a lot of sense
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Databricks / Eng
      datadicks

      Databricks Eng

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      datadicksmore
      You are a woman WRKSHP. They see your long hair and automatically price down at least 20%. Not even joking
      Dec 3, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      Lol
      Nah, it's fine. I negotiated it up
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng m0vef@st
      Sexism is not tolerated here
      Dec 3, 2017
    • Cisco / Eng QQlO08
      I'm surprised that starting by giving the (low) offers of startups to Lyft and Airbnb actually worked. The classic negotiation strategy is to not give the first number, especially if its low
      Jul 16, 2018
  • Ring ecvR86
    Reeks of a pathological liar in here ;)
    Nov 27, 2017 1
    • Google tQoL36
      with due respect, sir, you don't know shit about SWE salary
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Uber leapfrog1
    Personally I had much better offers than op from these companies. But I am a senior. Not sure why those companies are so desperate to get a 2 years experience person? Especially in current new graduates unfriendly market.
    Nov 28, 2017 9
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Indeed. I did the best for my Lyft interviews.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Amazon justAGuy01
      Lyft is also a sde2 offer .. thats stretching their t4 band but it's t4
      Nov 28, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Leapfrog do you mind sharing your offers for senior position?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Uber leapfrog1
      190k base 900k/4 years rsu 50k sign on for big companies and 1.5x rsu for pre-ipos. But sadly I never get 100k+ sign on bonus as op did.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Yahoo goofyyy
      How many years of experience do you have ? What levels were you hired at ?
      Dec 18, 2017
  • Pandora qwe1
    Did you share your current TC with recruiters at the time when you were interviewing?
    Nov 27, 2017 7
    • Amazon Eeqa10
      When asked, do you simply say something like "I would rather not answer"?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft CNTQ74
      Yeah, I would like to know this as well. Did you share your tittle at least which would have given them the ballpark?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Verathon / Eng
      naw

      Verathon Eng

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      nawmore
      Just say you prefer to keep that to yourself at this time. Never had an issue using that line.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      I only had two years of experience so it was kinda redundant to ask for my title. None of the recruiters asked me so I didn't have to answer. If you're asked, simply answer "I do not feel that my next job offer should not be based on my current salary and that I should be paid according to market value".
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft MaeR14
      It's anyways going to be illegal to ask about current salary in California
      Nov 28, 2017
  • PayPal Pejnsjsl
    I am so underpaid!!! These numbers just put me to depression.
    Nov 27, 2017 4
    • Google tQoL36
      time for leetcoding!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft Sammy1985
      No kidding. This could buy early retirement.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • When DO swe’s retire??
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Amazon Mv9
      Portland
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Salesforce Númenor
    OP, how are you liking it at Facebook? How’s work life balance?
    Feb 4, 2018 10
    • Google / Eng fart
      It's more like 10:30-5 at Google 😆
      Feb 8, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng instandidl
      Google is definitely way more chill
      Feb 8, 2018
    • Microsoft jdfw70
      I like those hours.
      Feb 8, 2018
    • PayPal / Other Venmo
      Google under utilizes majority of smart ppl. They just hire them so that they don't go to other top companies 😂
      Feb 8, 2018
    • Google / Eng fart
      The flip side of flexible working hours is that you'll end up working more, even though you're not physically present on your desk. At home, on the shuttle bus, etc.. But thats still up to individual, it's not expected of you.. as long as you deliver
      Feb 8, 2018
  • Pure Storage oiuytr
    This is a message for all those that don’t believe the OP.

    It’s all about the interview performance!!! Most big companies won’t care if 2 vs 5 years of experience if they think you are really smart. Unfortunately, the interview processes have a very narrow way to figure out if you are smart or not: whiteboard coding interviews. I did the same thing that the OP did here: practice a couple of hours every day after work for 5-6 weeks before interviewing and my offers from those companies were very close (some higher some lower) to the OP’s. At the time, I had 0 years of experience though I had a masters.
    Nov 29, 2017 0
  • Credit Karma VeganBacon
    Did you get rejected anywhere?
    Nov 28, 2017 9
    • Google fmlll
      How was Asana interview. Why did you get rejected? Is it harder than FB/G
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      It was an even split on algorithms and design questions and almost all the questions were done on a whiteboard. I would say they're harder than FB and G.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Google fmlll
      So they didn't ask much algo and coding problems but design?
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      They did. Each session had one algo one design. 4 sessions in total.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Asana / Eng imrandom
      I think I need a raise...
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Amazon Er24op
    Can you share your gender and race
    Nov 28, 2017 5
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      It shouldn't matter. FB does not discriminate
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft nNKI40
      Lol
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft nNKI40
      With charisma = 9
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Only a dude would brag about this shit, lol
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
      well its a known fact, but as a male I’m okay it. It would not matter that much in more senior level.
      Dec 6, 2017
  • Informatica anonymos66
    People calling this BS....I'll tell you it is not the case at all. My roommate with two years experience scored into Lyft with same figures. I think people who have all their shit together are able to get such unbelievable offers. Congrats OP you have an awesome future in front of you.
    Nov 27, 2017 0
  • Apple Bnhjk56
    Insane for 2 years! Congratulations. I know folks with 5 years making less. Bachelors or Masters? Which field in SWE?
    Nov 27, 2017 2
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Bachelor's. I'm doing client side development.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google Linkedin
      Man, 5 years is nothing :)
      Nov 27, 2017
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    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      I didn't try to. I think I did extremely well for Lyft hence the high offer and then the other offers were trying to match it
      Nov 27, 2017
    • eBay whitman
      Did you have to present the actual offer letter during negotiation or is verbal enough
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng serially
      OP
      Verbal. Or textual (over email)
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Google bigtable
      what? That comp for L3? Wow!
      Nov 27, 2017
    • LinkedIn / Eng job hunter
      I saw in another comment that you negotiated the google offer from 65k RSU up to 107k. That’s probably the moment they re-leveled you to E4.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Microsoft ill🥃2that
    I love the fact you tell us you went to a non-ivy league school.

    Like it matters lol
    Nov 28, 2017 7
    • Nvidia qwerk
      Yeah I've never had the impression that Ivy League matters in tech. Top CS/EE schools are not Ivy League
      Nov 28, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      ^ exactly. Out of the top cs schools - Berkeley, caltech, MIT, CMU, and Stanford - none are ivy league.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Microsoft ill🥃2that
      I mean where did the idea that ivy league schools are so great come from? I only think of them as schools for the kids of rich people.

      Stop and think for a second. How does the son of a rich person get automatically accepted, but another kid has to jump through a million hoops to get in?

      Simple, the school isn't for the latter and the barrier of entry is high so he doesn't get in.

      I always feel like immigrants came here and mistook the ivy leagues for something they are not.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng
      I've heard the main advantage of an ivy league are the connections. But if you go to Berkeley or Stanford, I'm sure you can get your similar value in connections at tech companies.

      I think half the value of having gone to Berkeley for me is the connections.
      Nov 29, 2017
    • Intel Monsoon
      OP so where did you join finally?
      Dec 10, 2018