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As the title says, is Google worth the hype / does Google live up to the hype? I feel like most big tech companies started copying or "matching" the benefits and perks that Google provides. Also, it seems that Google is heavily bloated and moves at a snails pace (which from an engineering prespective can be extremely frustrating). Edit: Asking because I completed my onsite(s) and am pretty optimistic but... they are interviewing me for an L3 position and wondering if it might be worth a paycut to join Google. TC: 210k YOE: 3 Years
Google is tier 2-3 TC and career growth wise. Go to Amazon / FB if those matter to you
Don't be a moron OP. It's never OK to accept a paycut.
Without joining G, what makes you feel it's heavily bloated and moves at a snails pace? Or is it just that you got low-balled so trying to self console?
A lot of posts on Blind as well as conversations with ex-colleagues or friends. With getting lowballed, there's 0 reason to get emotional. Its part of business and I understand. Just trying to get perspectives on whether it's still worth it or not.
It's not worth it if you genuinely feel you are low-balled. But just forming an opinion based on assumptions without even trying is foolish. Introspect the real issue.
Please don’t join Google. Join Amazon.
Why is that? Mr. Google employee
You should join when you are excited about a company. Not when you are not happy about the situation. Probably after Amazon you will appreciate all situations 😊
Overhyped. I get interviews from top companies just fine with Amazon on my resume. Not like people will give you easier questions or better offers once they see you worked for google. Not worth the pay cut
I wasn't downlevelled or lowballed when I joined. But I did realised that benefits are not something unique to G. Heck, even other companies are doing better. But it's definitely a good "overall deal" with decent WLB, positive culture and good engineering practices. I am still new so let's see how it goes!
The incompetent always complain about lowball…
Depends on what you care about. I wanted good WLB a good manager and a good TC. It has met all my expectations. The work itself is not challenging or hard. But I didn't want anything challenging. I wanted easy, low stress employment and I'm getting that. The culture is generally progressive and suits me as well. If you are conservative, it probably won't be good for you. So it ultimately comes down to what you want and what you care about.
Depends on a lot. Where you're coming from, whether you mean work or perks or people, etc. I'm still pretty new (have a few months under my belt) and have been into the offices a few times so I've got at least a little perspective of pandemic times offices... Perks: The food is great imo and the offices are nice. The gym is well stocked and the free espresso coffees are good. Work: This can vary a lot. Google is ALL about the documents, and planning, and delivering KRs (key results). You'll often have to write one pagers even for small changes, and you're judged in perf on what kind of documents you produce, and their quality. This can slow things down a lot but generally you'll end up with more well considered designs... Theoretically. Code reviews are also taken very seriously and you'll be expected to be thorough in your code reviews. People: Varies a lot. I've met some amazing people here, and some pretty pretentious snobs. People tend to be extremely helpful though, and I've never been made to feel bad about asking questions. Sometimes meetings get bogged down by folks trying to sound smarter than each other, lol. Generally I've loved being here, but it's certainly not perfect. I've also not been through a real perf cycle yet either... Edit: L5 btw
Thanks, I definitely see a lot of "defensive" googlers that come off as snobby whenever anything remotely bad is said about Google. But ofc there are a wide spectrum of people so I dont hold it against Google or see it as a con for making my decision. As for the KR, documents, and coding reviews - compared to any previous positions / experience, do you feel that its worth the extra effort (are the results worthwhile for the extra steps?) and how much slower do you feel it makes the whole process? (Maybe extra hour, day, week, etc)
I came from the other extreme. Basically work requests came in the form of an email or IM, design docs weren't a thing, and code reviews were a total rubber stamp. So it's been weird for me but a definite learning experience. The time it takes can depend a lot. You can definitely expect it to take multiple days to get a doc even looked at, but you can usually do the work while you're waiting for signoff, if you don't mind reworking based on feedback. I've definitely had whole days go down the toilet because I'm waiting on others to sign off on CRs or documents. There's lots to learn here so I haven't had trouble finding things to do while I wait.
Google is giving lowball offers recently - they know people will join anyway because “it’s google”
I got ~200k as a new grad. Is that a low ball? Genuine question
Not really