ex-Adobeiloveblind

Microsoft L65 Offer Redmond

Hi everyone. Need input on my L65 Principle SWE offer from Microsoft. Base: 195k Sign on: 45k split over 2 years RSU: 145k over 4 years Recruiter says my annual bonus is up to 30% of my base. Yoe: 13

Microsoft ljomhw7 May 24

Omg. Our comp is worse than Walmart

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

How does this compare across other l65’s?

Microsoft ljomhw7 May 24

What do you mean? Calculate the TC

DoorDash bobbill234 May 24

Isn’t annual bonus on performance based? So it’s more like 10%

Meta metasher May 24

Low, all of the 3 can be improved

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

How so?

Salesforce rubjk-?)$ May 24

Very bad offer

Meta 🍌 refugee May 24

Is L65 equivalent to L7 (principal) at Amazon? I can't believe a principal engineer gets paid like this

Meta prepview May 24

Nope L7 is definitely not equivalent to L65. L7 maps to a wide range but usually L67

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

Comp wise l65 maps to l4

Intuit Ambani$$$ May 24

What the hell is this?

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

For context recruiter said this is top of band

Microsoft chatg1234 May 24

65 is bottom of the principal band.

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

Comp band

Google vo51b May 24

You will be doing a lot of work for peanuts. Bonus is not guaranteed, don't rely on it. Negotiate hard.

Atlassian Mxlp31 May 24

Is this for real?

ex-Adobe iloveblind OP May 24

Yes deciding between this and Expedia offer

Atlassian Mxlp31 May 24

What's the Expedia offer?

Microsoft 🥜 farmer! May 24

First of all it's principal. Secondly, this is not worth it for the work you are expected to do. Do us all a favor by not even being willing to negotiate & thank for wasting your time.

Meta F3h5es2te5 May 24

Why not 1) negotiating for at least +20% 2) taking it and switching to Principal position in another company after 6 months with 50% raise?