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Since jobs are being cut aggressively and salaries are inevitably decreasing, is it even worth it anymore? Maybe some people have a natural talent for software engineering, but for me, it's always been a grind. It's an interesting career path, but it involves a lot of hard work. I have to constantly study to avoid becoming outdated, deal with overwhelming tech debt, and listen to project managers boasting about fairly trivial accomplishments. Management isn't much different. Most skills are soft skills that you learn once and use forever. Marketing has its own challenges, but you can get 80% there by reading a couple of books on the subject. Many people in marketing haven't even done that. Sales is unique. It's a high-pressure job, but in terms of learning, it doesn't require much. It's more about luck. If the product is good, the commissions are good. Will we see more software engineers transitioning to other career paths? What are your thoughts? I'll make an exception for the "nerds"—those who are in software engineering because they lack soft skills. They'll be fine as they can be paid less and be happy to tinker.
> Sales is unique. ... It's more about luck. Oh, really?
I mostly meant it from the commission standpoint. Like, if you have a shitty product - no matter how good you are, you are trying to sell shitty product and it’s gonna be hard. If you have a good product that is in demand, smile and wave will do 🤷♂️ I’m not a sales person, but this has been my observation.
Good companies making good products hire good salespeople. Sure, one can be a great engineer and work in a shitty company for low pay, but usually they can join better company and earn more. Same with sales.
When I started in the industry as an intern SWE I thought to myself “man, I would do this shit for free and they want to pay me for it? Awesome” If you don’t feel that way, you owe it to yourself to find a job you enjoy to that degree. There’s only one life to live and not everything is about money.
I am happy that you found your place! I did have this feeling as a junior without much pressure and expectations from me, but with additional expectations my whole life became computers. It became a “your money for my time” transaction and now the ratio is starting to not make sense to me.
Exactly - I remember asking for 60k during my first job interview. I make like 13x that now and I'd keep programming even if I was only making 60k. The people and PM bullshit is what's annoying. The programming is amazing.
I'm just here for the money
I love getting paged at 4am
I feel like my pay is already sub-exceptional for my YOE and skills.
i am thinking of quitting it even for 350k tc let alone 100k
If every career paid the same what would we do? Probably be a streamer or something
This is entertainment industry, not an easy thing at all with a lot of competition.