Microsoft India vs Flipkart India Offer evaluate

New / Eng
3pinplug

New Eng

3pinplug
Apr 12, 2021 51 Comments

Hi everyone

Have got a offer from Msft hyderabad and Flipkart bangalore, both for India, and will appreciate your guys help to evaluate

currently working at Goibibo(MakeMyTrip)
TC: 20l (all fixed) no variable
YOE: 3.8

March 1st week
Had a GS(SRE platforms team, Associate) offer with - 28 fixed + 5-6L(verbal bonus, not on paper), have already declined as I was not very keen to join there

Mid march
Msft (azure commerce team L61) - 23 + 20% perf bonus(have heard they only give 10% practically) + ~4.5 (stock yearly till 4 years)
Few one time monetory stuff - 2+1 JB and 90K extra while relocation

April 2nd week
Flipkart (inventory mgmt team SDE 2) - 29 + 10% perf bonus(have heard this is avg so expecting this is practical no.) + 3 (stock yearly till 4 years, currently this is paper money as its unlisted)

My thoughts
1.I was and still am really inclined towards msft as I am looking for a good brand name(from indian context)
2.But now Flipkart came up with a big difference in base and since future increments depends on base that can be a factor
3.Got a good vibe from msft manager in HM round, at Flipkart it was not very good from the managers way of talking seemed like they are not enjoying much.
4. Both of them not ready to negotiate, msft didnt negotiate even once(I only had GS offer at that time, got flipkart after almost a month)

Reason to switch was get to a good brand name, and have always had a view that msft is a good brand(for some reason) but flipkart offer got me all confused now, If i join it for TC It will be similar to MMT i guess (in terms of brand)

Please evaluate and suggest guys(considering the long run). Do consider other factors as well that I might have missed?

Additional question(i am a noob): do these public listed companies mostly offer lesser base and add some stock in TC ?

#tech #microsoft #flipkart #software #engineering #india #evaluation

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  • Flipkart / Eng
    nicedude

    Go to company page Flipkart Eng

    nicedude
    Go for Flipkart.
    - Higher base.
    - Even on promotion to next level, TC in FK(sde3) will be better than MS 62/63.
    - You are getting stocks at pre-IPO rate, which can easily reach 2-3x in reasonable time.
    - Don't worry about team, you can easily switch teams.
    - Work in flipkart is much better than MS.
    - Flipkart is also a very good brand name, can easily attract FAANG recruiters.
    - Only upside in MS I see is, you can move to US after getting promoted to 62. Even then, I'd suggest to switch later to MS at >62level.
    Apr 12, 2021 8
  • I had a mate who left flipkart in 6 months because of stress and lack of work life balance. My vote is for Microsoft(RSUs are a significant advantage which more than makes up for the lesser fixed component)
    Apr 12, 2021 1
  • Amazon
    hayama

    Go to company page Amazon

    hayama
    Both low balled on stocks. Sde-2 equivalent level should usually get atleast ~10L per year in stocks. You're right that base determines increments, but also remember that each level has an upper limit, you'll stay there until promo if you start at top. Pay is one thing but job satisfaction is also important, you mentioned you liked ms better, so consider that as well.

    My suggestion : Try to negotiate with ms to get more stocks, current stock is what L60 gets, if that is not possible you should decide based on what you have now. I see that you mentioned differences in brand, job satisfaction, culture and TC. You should weigh these and decide if one is worth the other. Depends on what matters more to you.

    Think from growth perspective as well, how soon will you get to L62 in MS vs SDE-3 in Flipkart, and what'll be the tc over-all over the next few years, and what if you pick one now level up and jump to the top of band in other one after ~2-3 years.

    Also, if possible try Amazon also, they pay much better, learning wise also it's comparable to the offers you have but you'd have to sacrifice on wlb a bit. And, even if you don't want to join, the offer itself can help you to negotiate much better.
    Apr 12, 2021 4
    • Amazon
      hayama

      Go to company page Amazon

      hayama
      For behavioural, the questions are pretty standard. You can refer the behavioural section in cracking the coding interview (you'll find the PDF online), or search on google for interview experiences specific to the company you're interviewing with. Basically you need to come prepared with a couple of answers to each situation, as it's difficult to answer these on the spot (for me atleast). Follow a template for your answers, STAR is well known and works
      Apr 12, 2021
    • Amazon / IT
      MEQr37

      Go to company page Amazon IT

      MEQr37
      I have similar opinion
      Jun 26, 2021
  • New
    PlqM21

    New

    PlqM21
    Flipkart is a better brand name in Bangalore tech scene than Microsoft. If your team in FK is not good, you can move internally after some time. Most importantly, FK is based out of Bangalore so you will have an opportunity to participate in their core work and learn scale.

    Microsoft is good if you want really good work life balance.
    Apr 12, 2021 0
  • LinkedIn / Admin
    overheated

    Go to company page LinkedIn Admin

    overheated
    Both are lowballing in stocks. Don't join either and continue trying elsewhere.
    Apr 12, 2021 0