I’m in China currently and have worked for 5 years. In China, as a SWE if you cannot get the position of manager before 35-40, it’s hard to find a new job as IC. There are a lot of the graduated who are major in CS every year. Recently, I have some opportunities to transfer to other countries. So I’d like to ask that does it have the similar situation in other countries like USA or Canada? Where do they go if 35+ years old.
There is ageism. But 35 is too young. Might happen closer to 50
In America? Lol no. Maybe at like 55-60.
Nah we got a killer Eng who’s pushing 70 here.
I'd like some of what you're smoking 40+
In terms of societal dynamics, the Western world is far more advanced than the rest of the world combined. They understand that skills don't fade with age if one continues to work on them. It's only in newly wealthy countries that these nonsensical ageist policies exist.
What the western world doesn't have is a practically infinite supply of people. 80% of these populations could just exist and not particularly contribute meaningful skills. There are enough people in the remaining 20% to get these countries high up to advanced standards. All while having cutthroat internal competition. Skills don't fade with age. Needs increase with age. It's easier to get rid of the older person because there's always a younger one to take their place for far less It's not nonsensical. It's what happens when a crowd shows up.
Lol you don't even have compulsory paid maternity leave in the US. You call that advanced? 🤣
I started my swe career after 40
Wow, what did you do before it?
Worked at an Ad Agency doing flash banners, then UX, Product Design. Hated how many talentless posers were in design. I think people wanted the designer lifestyle. Figured I'm good with computers, math, and that SWE has higher ceiling so made the jump.
There’s a tech lead in my train who’s like 60+ omitted think
I’m sure it does still happen sometimes, but I believe that would constitute illegal discrimination in the US (after age 40 at least)
That explains why the Chinese want to become managers. And then the Chinese hire Chinese at Meta. The manager's role is useless.
What's Raj in Chinese
Wei Chen
35 is literally PEAK - no idea where this comes from.
Yeah, 35-40 for ICs. 40-50 for Management.
No not anymore than below 35