I believe companies should be diverse but H1B was established in order to fill roles that couldn’t be filled by Americans. Companies used to be required to demonstrate they COULD NOT find the talent in the US and thus had to hire from abroad. Might have been true ten years ago but today there are thousands of technical workers who are Americans who are out of work while H1Bs are still being hired at ridiculous rates. H1Bs should expire and forced to return to their countries of origin so Americans can again take positions in American companies. It’s bullshit that you step onto a Google, Apple, or Meta campus and it’s 75 percent H1Bs. I know that’s harsh and it’s a bummer that tech growth is not as fast growing in those countries but tech is no longer a booming industry with cuts coming regularly. I’m open to bringing back H1B if and when the industry improves again but right now isn’t it. Americans who dove hard into the education, who spent the money (education is expensive in the US as opposed to H1B countries where education is largely free), did the work, and got the degrees, and who have paid US taxes their whole lives and have volunteered for selective service. Those Americans shouldn’t be forced to compete for roles against non-Americans in a tight industry. TC 325k YoE 7
There are plenty of companies that hire only US citizens and GC holders like defense, small startups and non e-verified companies. This is the best time to be an American in tech.
Absolutely bs statement. It’s an awful time to be in tech that’s worth being in. Big tech is the only field worth latching onto for a decent check and those companies should be required to prove they NEEDED an H1B because they couldn’t find the talent in the US which is complete nonsense
Nobody is guaranteed a “decent check”. There is no common definition of “decent”. That’s why Labor Certification process exists. The qualified Americans in tech who need a job have plenty of options. Because if we bring any restrictions, next you will say minimum wage workers in McDonalds should be allowed as tech workers because they also need to make a “decent check”. Let the capitalist markets decide what the job is, what it pays and who can do it best.
No one cares & this game will continue. Play another game if you don’t like it!
I’m hoping Trump comes in. He’ll turn off the spigot
Lol Trump is in favor of corporations and corporations love H-1Bs. Please give me what you are smoking.
Tiktok is hiring many Chinese folks on H-1B
Ok. I don’t like that either
H1Bs are cheaper than non-visa folks, so the tech companies would lobby against this. The only way to pass this kind of thing is to leverage what you have which visa folks do not: a vote.
Not always. I think it is more about favoritism and comfort of working with people with specific origin who understands "the rules of the game". H1Bs are more loyal because they want GC
Did you ever stop to think why? Hint it’s not because h1b is cheaper. What about the ton of companies hiring outside USA? Why don’t you do something about that? Many people including h1b are being laid off and replaced with remote - not at apple afaik.
I’m ok with them hiring in other countries. It’s moving them here to take US based roles I don’t like. If Meta had only a single office of 100 US citizens in the states and had thousands of jobs in other countries, I’m not going to complain about that. I am going to complain if I find a US based job I’m qualified for and I have to compete for it against, not only other Americans, but a flood of H-1Bs
Yes but why is it like this? I get you don’t want the competition, I respect your view but whose best interest is this model serving?
I think it’s even bigger than that, you said they study abroad where it’s cheaper, in my opinion most of them actually study here, that’s how they get hired afterwards. I attended a graduation ceremony at Northeastern a few years ago (Computer Science Masters) and I would say about 90% of the graduates were Indian or Chinese. Very very few Americans. They called every person to get their degree and it was uncanny to hear almost only Indian and Chinese names. In my opinion Universities are making a ton of money from this so they don’t want it to stop. If there is no possibility for people to get an H1B visa after graduation most won’t pay the crazy tuition fees to study here. My guess is that this also contributes to the huge increase in tuition fees we’ve seen in the recent years so yet another way in which Americans are getting screwed. But this country cares more about money than its people so this will keep happening.
Stop this nonsense, they mostly go to diploma mills just to get the degrees. These are mostly sham schools who are being exploited by Democrats to get the immigrants into the US via backdoor.
In which world do you live in eBay. Go check stats. Hubspot is right
Vote for Trump if you want to stop H1B menace. Remember when Trump was president last time, H1B almost came to a trickle. Biden and Democrats have sold this country for personal gains and should be investigated for treason.
Let’s look at it objectively, companies are not going to favor an H1B worker over you because they are an H1B worker (at least the ones you defined as “worth working for/big tech” won’t). They will prefer an H1B worker who they think is *better* (more experienced/qualified/has better work ethics) over you. Now, there are two scenarios you talked about. Scenario 1- Status quo : The job market is tough and it’s hard for anyone to get a job in this market. So, you work on upskilling and hope to land one as you have established yourself as one of the better choices in the pool you are competing against (or hack the process to be exceptional at interviewing). Scenario 2 - Remove all H1Bs from the pool : All you are going to accomplish is sending back a bunch of highly qualified Indian workers in big tech to their home country. There would be a reduction in how much they will spend their money in US’s local economy. What you are conveniently ignoring is that most of these companies we are talking about are MNCs. They have significant presence in other countries, especially in India. And, the choice you are giving them is essentially, hire someone in the US vs hire someone who might be better skilled in India. And the second choice comes with an additional incentive to these companies that they need to be paid less in India. So, now you are in a situation where you are competing among a smaller pool for a significantly fewer roles. Pick your poison! And I totally understand that working on yourself is hard so may be it’s prudent to send all the h1b workers back and then come back to Blind in a year and talk about how inept our politicians are for allowing these big companies to have offices in other countries.
Thisss!
What a bull of crap from Apple. Why the F don’t you go back to your country and make something if your claim is so worthy? H1B getting job over the US citizens is mostly due to nepotism and favoritism. That’s all, this isn’t a discussion about talent and skills.
Again I like your line of argument. If I bring a claim then I need to prove because you somehow conveniently overlooked a much claimed fact and your data point of one holds greater weight than others. Sir, your coming to this country and taking over jobs enmass is not appreciated. I notice Indians only hiring Indians, which proves that if they hire others they will be able to learn and perform the job just as well.
Every weekend we have this post
Probably gonna continue until it’s fixed
Every weekend is not enough, these posts should be made by citizens of this country every second till politicians fix this nonsense. If they don’t fix this then these politicians should be voted out.