We should have never locked-down
Precisely, the economy should have never been stopped. I can already see how hard or impossible it is going to be to go back to normal and get back all the jobs. But instead should have enforced precautions from day 1. Like mandatory masks, massive testing, mandatory quarantine for people entering the country, enhanced cleaning, reduced work hours in shifts and asking 50+ aged people to stay at home. Maybe give a week or two for allowing businesses, employers and transit agencies to prepare for it. I understand the current generation has never gone through a pandemic like this, but there are people who do a PhD in infectious diseases and there are people appointed to control diseases plus the people who know money and economy, they should have known about the effects.
âPhDs Not knowingâ didnât cause this. PhDs arenât government executives. Also, âmassive testing on day 1â? đđ âEnforced mandatory masksâ đđđ âMandatory quarantineâ. đđđđ
What USA did was somewhere in the middle- never did a proper lockdown. IMO it ended up being useless and still caused the same number of deaths as predicted. I'm saying either do a extra-strict lockdown or just not do a lockdown but take those precautions. The USA didn't do a strict lockdown nor take the necessary precautions. Enforced mandatory masks are a very common thing in Asia so why not here.
Because Americans fight the government in court or by protests. Itâs a good thing to be skeptical of the govt, but we take it a bit too far.
What is the benefit of testing if you are not doing anything to stop the spread of the virus? Just counting? lol
We allowed virologists to make all the decisions
If only we had we wouldn't be so fucked right now
No, we paraded virologists and epidemiologists on stage to pretend we were allowing them to make the decisions, but the political class ignored their advice. That's why we're in the situation we are now.
Oh good points but you dangerously close to being logical (even I don't agree with you, prefer other merhods). If you exhibit/display an iota of logic, you will be ostracised from the current group that's handling the virus. Mandatory masks - how the f..k did this become a political issue? Mandatory quarantine - ha ha, look at dim wits who were parading around with guns in MI The problem in our country is that people (mostly on the right) have been taught to mistrust science. So sorry your logical suggestion will be laughed at by the Republicans and unfortunately they are in power.
Then why did liberal and left leaning countries have a lockdown or are they also ruled by Republicans? (I'm not Republican)
South Korea and Taiwan did what the OP suggests as it worked. Too bad Trump didn't listen.
This is NOT about the pandemic. Initially the lockdown was to : 1. Flatten the curve 2. Increase hospital capacity, testing facilities , protect care home residents and increase PPE for health care workers. 1 happened and 2 never did. A couple more months of this and we will be entering into a wave of suicides, Heath problems, bankruptcies etc. Iâm Pretty scared for the future-not the virus itself but the larger economic and social implications. There is no honest conversation about the fact that a vaccine may never come. I was all for the lockdown initially until itâs obvious that what lockdown was intended for never happened.
It didnât happen because we did not stay locked down long enough. The countries that stayed locked down for 12 weeks are opening up now. Since Trump got all the hillbillyâs out, and Pence told everyone that Memorial Day was when the economy was going to reopen, we never were able to get our cases down. Throw in Trump and Pence telling people NOT to wear masksâhere we are.
All we have to do is lockdownâthis time like we mean it, for 12 weeks and mandate that everyone wear a mask. If we did this, by October we could reopen the country.
- Shut the border - Deliver everyone 2 weeks rations of food - Redefine essential worker to actually essential (e.g., power plants) - Require everyone stay home for 2 weeks - Require essential workers live at work. Pay extra - Life in prison if you later test positive for Covid (proving your broke the rules) Pandemic solved. The fact that we can put a man on the moon but not accomplish this is astounding. Like yeah it would suck but so does the on/off quarantine rules for the unforeseen future.
Exactly. Basically a đ down, lol. You are 100% right. Do that, and in two weeks if things arenât better, do two more weeks. Keep going until you essentially âfirebreakâ the đŚ .
You donât understand human psychology. You probably believe real socialism would work too.
We should have locked down longer like New Zealand. We didnât stay locked down long enough to halt the cases.
People also didn't comply with the orders (and still aren't complying even as cases skyrocket) - it needed more teeth.
They should have done what Korea did. Wear masks and have hand sanitizer available everywhere. Test regularly and stay home if you are positive. US was too late on all fronts
Korea didnât mandate wearing masks. They didnât lockdown as much as the US either.
I say do a government-forced lockdown with military and national guard intervention. States with borders preventing travel. Then quarantine the military and national guard.
Lol you think this is actually about health and a pandemic đ
What else is it about? I'm thinking something on the lines of what Vietnam did. Very few cases and 0 deaths without a lockdown.
Itâs about coalesce, command, control. This âpandemicâ wipes out small biz lessening independence. Next small banks will be wiped due to inflation thus eliminating future small biz. Wealth will continue to flow into central/large assets like big corporations and equities, which are already on sleeping (with one eye open) with govât. Once theyâre all thatâs left theyâll be throttled and controlled. Look at FB and Amz and all the desire to regulate. Homey wake t f up