117k + 15k Bay Area, 10 yrs experience Software Engineer, McAfee

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Sep 20, 2017 20 Comments

I have just above 10 yrs of Software Engineering experience. I make 117k base plus around 15k bonus in the Bay Area Santa Clara region. I know I am underpaid but wanted to get a an idea/number on how much so I can use that for discussing with my manager. It's always better to show data during such discussions (I'll of course look at other sources but any input here is valuable)

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  • Amazon / Eng Ham Sup Lo
    You have no leverage to negotiate unless you get some competing offers #artofthedeal
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng Ls19s2
    I try to avoid commenting on things like this, but I genuinely hope this helps:

    I don't think you can fill the gap just by talking to your manager, since it's so large (anywhere from $10k-300k) . You'll have to get some competing offers, and probably consider leaving McAfee for one of those offers.

    Without getting into specifics, I can tell you that I graduated from a no-name school, with only a BS, and made ~50k more than you are making right now right after graduating. This offer was made 3 years ago. (edit: at LinkedIn)

    That being said, I got very lucky. You're also lucky because your salary is also good, by normal, non-tech standards, but could be better—especially considering that you're a software engineer in the Bay Area.

    I'm in no position to say how much you should be making, since I don't know anything about you, or your org, but I hope this helps. Hopefully you can work things out with your manager.

    Best of luck!
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Zulily SKgJ61
    He is waiting for you to leave 😀make the move .
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng pufferduck
    Bringing it to your manager probably won't net you that much more (been there done that). Even if you got a 100% raise, you'd still be potentially underpaid for 10 years exp. If money is your goal, I'd say just jump ship, and never mention your current comp to future employers.
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng CausalCat
    My new grad offer at Amazon is 103k base plus 26k signing bonus first paycheck + 26k spread over the second year + 65k stock over 4 years (5/15/40/40 vesting)

    (Not trying to brag, just giving you a data point)
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Cisco / Eng
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    It's totally underpaid, One of my frnd (new grad) got 125 base with zero years with one of mnc companies.
    And with promotion or increment you will not get more hike.
    Please change company.
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Autodesk / Mgmt
    Junkpal

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    Most probably you entered McAfee using L1 transfer visa from India..
    Sep 20, 2017 3
    • Juniper :-*
      L1 makes sense. Then it is really how OP values green card and/or H1b over the pay difference.
      Sep 20, 2017
    • Meggitt / Eng anon10101
      McAfee != Norton
      Sep 20, 2017
    • Indeed / Eng OFdiw268
      Intel.
      Sep 20, 2017
  • Paysa jiDx56
    From what we see at Paysa, salaries for Software Engineers at McAfee in San Francisco range from $152K to $176K with the average falling at $164K. And in a few cases even higher.
    Note that this is an ''all-in'' number - meaning it includes base, bonus and equity.

    The average Base Salary is $117K per year, ranging from $109K to $126K.

    Here's the data source: https://goo.gl/gZ5uvm

    Honestly for the amount of experience you have, you should be getting paid way more. Software Engineers' average salary in San Francisco is $217K, ranging from $142K to $299K.

    Detailed statistics for example: https://goo.gl/tg6jBG
    Sep 20, 2017 2
    • Cognizant / Eng uQlt66
      Agreed. Using your own data just isn't the same as a bona fide personal post.
      Sep 20, 2017
    • Paysa jiDx56
      This info is from more than 21K Software Engineers in San Francisco who are on Paysa's platform making in this range. And also watching companies making offers in this range as well.
      Sep 20, 2017
  • Zulily SKgJ61
    The going rate is anywhere from 160k base to 180k if you look at total comp it goes beyond 400k
    Sep 20, 2017 1
    • Splunk NMallu
      1 million.
      Sep 20, 2017
  • Facebook rav
    You deserve a better job.
    Sep 20, 2017 0
  • Juniper :-*
    Even in a doomed area suck as network, your comp is more or less of an entry level . Fresh PhD or master with software engineer title might make more than yours.
    Sep 20, 2017 0
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    • Cisco / Eng
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      Damn sure you deserve better pay.
      Please change
      Sep 20, 2017
  • Salesforce WeRFamily
    Geez. Apply to salesforce. Our new grads are getting more than that now I think. Would be happy to refer. Salesforce really values experienced engineers and there are a lot of openings. We do have some openings in Palo Alto if you want to stay in the South Bay
    Sep 28, 2017 0
  • Indeed / Eng OFdiw268
    Man I feel for you. Definitely move on. You should be paid ATLEAST twice. If I were you I would not even bother asking my mgr and jump ship. Seriously fuck Intel. I know they are not big paymasters but this is too low.
    Sep 20, 2017 0