Adobe compensation

Microsoft lgbJ78
Nov 27, 2017 43 Comments

I'm expecting a verbal offer from Adobe today. Recruiter wants to talk on phone, probably to get initial comp expectations. This is for Bay area office. I'm currently L63 at MS with 168k base, avg 15% bonus, and only 22k rsu per year). The team was very nice and they have some interesting challenges. But with more on-sites in next couple of weeks this isn't my top choice. No other outstanding offers yet. Should I even mention an amount? Does Adobe give competitive salary? Thanks.

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  • Microsoft lgbJ78
    OP
    Update on offer details. For senior software engineer

    166k base
    400 rsu 4 yr (70k total)
    5% annual bonus

    The rsu and bonus seem really low. Also they didn't offer sign on bonus. Wondering what parts I can negotiate? Base is slightly lower than current comp. Bonus is much lower (I'm at 15-20% range)
    Dec 14, 2017 6
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      About 5 years experience
      Dec 14, 2017
    • Adobe sushiLife
      I got 750 rsu for 1 yr experience and negotiated for 10k sign on. Your offer seems low
      Dec 18, 2017
    • Adobe sushiLife
      5% is standard here. It's stupid low idk why
      Dec 18, 2017
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      They raised to 180k and 900 rsu.
      Dec 19, 2017
    • Adobe sushiLife
      Nice!
      Dec 19, 2017
  • Adobe SJCs
    Pay may vary, I came in early this year got basically what your are making, $220k total comp at that time as non senior engineer. Not the top tier, but decent.

    Working here feels similar to Microsoft. You might be making more with ESPP at Microsoft.
    Nov 27, 2017 2
    • Adobe sushiLife
      Wow that's amazing for non senior. I make maybe 65% of that for mid level eng
      Nov 27, 2017
    • SAP / Eng JuliusCasr
      @SJC how many years of experience​ did you have when you joined Adobe?
      Dec 14, 2017
  • Adobe L4l4
    I got a 12% bump plus rsus and signing bonus moving from MSFT to Adobe a couple of years ago.
    Nov 29, 2017 1
    • Adobe L4l4
      I was also honest about how much I made and what I would leave behind if I left.
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Microsoft Katherine
    Being California, I think they just passed a law saying that employers could not ask about salary history. It is supposed to help with gender-based pay disparity...

    This may help you?
    Nov 27, 2017 1
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      That's true. I believe that law kicks in 2018 but employer is unlikely to ask current comp. But I think they can still ask for expected comp.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Vdopia / Sales Settle89
    Would not recommend Ad Cloud. low base, long hours, unclear future after adobe acquisition. Lots of turnover in company since merger.
    Jan 3, 2018 0
  • Adobe sushiLife
    Op, how'd it turn out?
    Dec 18, 2017 0
  • Adobe tailcaller
    That's an interesting team. I think Adobe can pay competitively depending on the team, also consider the stock price doubling a couple times in the past few years and all the benefits.
    Nov 27, 2017 0
  • Oath bhddhhdsh
    OP so what was your offer?
    Dec 1, 2017 3
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      The recruiter told me to let him know when I'm done my on-sites (end next week) to start offer process/negotiation. They probably assume I wont immediately accept Adobe if I have other interviews bwith Google etc.
      Dec 1, 2017
    • Adobe tailcaller
      Any updates?
      Dec 10, 2017
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      Twitter has said they are going to give an offer, so I will start talking numbers with both next week.
      Dec 10, 2017
  • Microsoft lgbJ78
    OP
    I got verbal offer, but since I have multiple onsite coming in the recruiter told me to let him know when I'm done onsite and ready to discuss compensation/details.

    This is basically a verbal offer right? I can mention this offer to other companies correct?
    Nov 28, 2017 3
    • Adobe sushiLife
      Yes, but don't count on anything until you have it in writing
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      Sure. With at will employment even a written offer isn't too meaningful though.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng ⭐
      Yeah you can
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Microsoft lgbJ78
    OP
    I'm thinking of asking for 180 base, 1200 rsu, and 15% annual bonus. Is that too small or too aggressive?
    Dec 14, 2017 2
    • Adobe tailcaller
      Those numbers seem optimistic to me. You could ask for more base and RSU, but bonus is the same for all.
      Dec 15, 2017
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      I see. good to know about bonus.
      Dec 15, 2017
  • Role?
    Nov 27, 2017 1
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      Software engineer. In ad cloud org.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Oracle Santraadmi
    Is 1200 rsu yearly or for 4 years ?
    Jul 17, 2018 0
  • Adobe jP8bOy
    Adobe is not the place to go if you’re looking for top pay
    Nov 27, 2017 0
  • SAP / Eng JuliusCasr
    How does Adobe I/O team do? Do they pay well?
    Nov 27, 2017 0
  • WRKSHP / Eng ⭐
    Usually I avoid mentioning an amount but for me I'm not BSing when I say compensation is less important to me than other things like team and product
    Nov 27, 2017 0
  • Adobe xhgb81
    The org you're applying to doesn't pay well
    Nov 27, 2017 3
    • Salesforce / Other opt in
      What clouds do?
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      That's disappointing! This is in Emeryville office.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • WRKSHP / Eng ⭐
      Oh it's former tubemogul
      Nov 27, 2017
  • Adobe sushiLife
    Please update! I doubt we'd meet that bc adobe is cheap but I'd love to be wrong
    Nov 27, 2017 1
    • Microsoft lgbJ78
      OP
      Talking to recruiter tomorrow.
      Nov 27, 2017
  • ForeSee KTa
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    Jun 29 0
  • Any outcome OP? Curious how this fared out!
    Jan 15 0
  • Apple IVlm73
    You still have no obligation to answer. You can just say you would like amount $abc based on your research at the following sources...
    Nov 27, 2017 0