Amazon SDE2 offer evaluation

Microsoft Itsyimes
Apr 20 43 Comments

Base 145
Sign on: 75/55
Stocks: 95 units
Location: Seattle
YOE 3 with Masters

Is there room to negotiate it up? How is comp growth like?

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TOP 43 Comments
  • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
    There’s nothing wrong with that offer. You need more yoe
    Apr 20 0
  • New / Eng shshzha
    That TC is close to $250k for year 1. Awesome. Congratulations!!
    Apr 20 9
    • New / Eng shshzha
      OP will get more cash bonus for the 1-2 years while more stocks in 3-4 years !!
      Apr 20
    • Pegasystems lmWithGir
      How does amazon pay out signon bonus? First check of anniversary?
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Monthly, each installment is earned at time of pay.
      Apr 20
    • Pegasystems lmWithGir
      That’s interesting. It’s essentially increased base pay for the first 2 years. Then trade base pay for stock in year 3 and 4.
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      That's how they roll lol
      Apr 20
  • Airbnb liFu43
    You can get more, but probably not at Amazon/Microsoft
    Apr 20 8
    • Airbnb liFu43
      240k salary or TC?
      Apr 20
    • Amazon Jd8xye
      240k will be the total comp. Seattle base salary cap is at 160k.
      Apr 20
    • Nvidia wagecuck
      You can get up to 270K for SDE2 in Seattle
      Apr 20
    • Airbnb liFu43
      I think he means that's the cap @ amazon
      Apr 20
    • Airbnb liFu43
      You can get a little more, but probably not without some paper money 😂
      Apr 20
  • Amazon sekuro
    Seattle? You probably won’t be able to make too much more than that until your hit Senior in Seattle, approaching top of band with that offer.
    Apr 20 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes its a Seattle offer
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      How long on average do motivated engineers reach senior?
      Apr 20
    • FuelQuest Cubbbe
      2-3 years for motivated sde2. I know someone that went from sde1 to sde3 in 4 years. That was impressive but not typical
      Apr 20
  • Microsoft Itsyimes
    OP
    This is for AWS, how's the work culture?
    Apr 20 1
    • Google vpdL58
      Also curious, I heard horror stories in 2013 but none recently
      Apr 23
  • Amazon drumrol
    Wait, you're including your master's in 3 YOE? So your actual industry experience after master's is 1 YOE? Take the offer, I'm surprised they didn't downlevel you to SDE-1. It'll be difficult to find a better offer elsewhere, F/G are likely to hire you at L3.
    Apr 20 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      No i meant i had a couple of years of exp before going for masters. And 1 yr post it now
      Apr 20
    • Amazon drumrol
      Was it at a top tech company as an SDE? I still think you're likely to get down leveled at F/G.
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes, but msft also hired me at 59 out of college. Amazon is perhaps re adjusting me to the right level.
      Apr 21
  • Microsoft TcqR08
    Depends on how your interview went..if your feedback is good..you can probably push for more stocks. Was your stock evaluated at 1800?
    Apr 20 3
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      Yes, the stock was hovering around 1750 that time
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft TcqR08
      There is no harm in asking more
      Apr 20
    • Oath / Mgmt Atinlay2
      Until they pull the offer
      Apr 20
  • Microsoft xVeQ24
    Do you have work experience in Microsoft redmond?
    Apr 20 2
    • Microsoft Itsyimes
      OP
      No, i got hired out of masters at msft Redmond so upto 1 yr here
      Apr 20
    • Microsoft xVeQ24
      Dmed you
      Apr 20
  • New / Eng
    duqO85

    New Eng

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    Amazon
    duqO85more
    That's around 220 TC (accounting for signon vs vesting across 2 years). My coworker who joined recently with 5 YOE only got offered 200 TC after a lot of negotiating.

    I was only at 220 TC after being with Amazon for 5 years, right before being promoted to SDE3. So all in all, that's a very generous SDE2 offer. Top of SDE2 pay band is 225, so there's really no room to negotiate without getting some VP approval.
    Apr 22 0
  • Microsoft Itsyimes
    OP
    I was able to get 285 first year with sign on and 225+ offer in the bay area (not F/G) , and another better offer in Seattle from a start up here but that includes paper money.
    Apr 21 0
  • Amazon TTAWSSSD
    Yup, good offer. L6 low end is 250 so you are close.
    Apr 20 0
  • Asurion rm -rf /
    I am going to AWS too in Seattle. 9 YOE, Bachelors, 158/78+61/121

    You have a good offer for your YOE.
    Apr 20 0
  • Amazon bezos,Jeff
    Looks really good for sde2 with 3 YoE
    Apr 20 0
  • Facebook Pbuj80
    Sign on is beast
    Apr 20 0