Amazon recruiter asked my current comp, is that allowed?

Microsoft / Eng W1tCh3r
Dec 30, 2017 33 Comments

I've been speaking to a recruiter from Amazon, and she wants to know my current comp before scheduling onsite interview.

When I questioned her about it, she said that it's mandatory. Is she telling the truth? Do I have to tell her my current salary?

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  • Amazon / Other Sewer Rat
    100% not mandatory. Give me her/his name and I'll chew their ass. How do these idiots remain employed?
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Mgmt
    4agK93

    Microsoft Mgmt

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    4agK93more
    Mandatory my ass. Do you need the job badly? If not, say you’re not comfortable disclosing that information as you consider that confidential between you and your employer.
    Dec 30, 2017 5
    • Microsoft / Eng W1tCh3r
      OP
      Yup, that's what I'm thinking of replying.
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Facebook KurisuM
      Salary is not confidential information. Besides that is a bad line to use if you later plan on negotiating based on your current salary.
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Blizzard / Eng cCKq86
      “I am not comfortable sharing that information at this juncture. Does the position not pay competitively?”
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Microsoft / Mgmt
      4agK93

      Microsoft Mgmt

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      Amazon
      4agK93more
      Salary IS confidential. It’s not protected as a trade secret or anything, but if the recruiter called the current employer and asked for OP’s salary information, would the current employer provide it? No. Because it’s confidential. OP can disclose that confidential data voluntarily but it’s up to them if they want to keep it confidential between them and their employer.
      Dec 31, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng
      amazoni@n

      Amazon Eng

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      Deloitte, Accenture
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      amazoni@nmore
      It is confidential, but they can request pay stubs for proof of employment and find out anyway.
      Dec 31, 2017
  • Amazon amzn11
    Every tech company I’ve ever interviewed with has asked me the same. It’s a fact finding mission for them to ensure they are well calibrated in their leveling, and expedite the offer if you make it to that stage. You’re right that it gives them leverage bc it places an upper bound on what they will offer you, justified by “its already X% above your current comp”. But it’s part of the game, every recruiter does it, and virtually every candidate complies.
    Dec 30, 2017 1
    • Blizzard / Eng cCKq86
      Wow, no. Whenever I’ve been asked ny current comp, what the recruiter really wants to know is if the position pays in the range that you would be willing to accept.

      You can make an informed decision based on your experience and the job description you are given that you would expect the compensation for you to be within x-y range.

      If they need your exact current salary, in CA, that’s only legal until 2018, so delay answering until 1/1, and then cite the new law, and that you’d like to know the position’s pay range (also required to be divulged as of 1/1).
      Dec 30, 2017
  • Amazon Mangaaka
    What is that recruiter’s name? (DM me).
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

    Amazon Eng

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    Engineer at AWS
    Hooliganssmore
    I don’t think a law that prohibits it is in effect yet. Perhaps just share a salary that is slightly less than your target?
    Dec 30, 2017 4
    • Facebook KurisuM
      That would be lying. Instead just say that you're not comfortable sharing such numbers at this stage of the process, and offer to tell her what you're looking for instead.
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Microsoft / Eng W1tCh3r
      OP
      Telling them my expectation or my current comp would give them an incredible advantage during offer negotiation stage.
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Snapchat / Eng
      SomeEng

      Snapchat Eng

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      SomeEngmore
      Honestly I just tell recruiters exactly that. That I don't want to give up negotiation leverage and I understand that it does and there's no benefit to me doing it.
      Dec 30, 2017
    • Capital One Trk106
      Depends on the state. Some went into effect right around Nov 1.
      Dec 30, 2017
  • Microsoft / Eng lpk89d
    Or just lie. Tell them your salary is actually 50% higher than it really is.
    Dec 30, 2017 1
    • Amazon BEEFUS
      Always lie.
      Always always lie.
      Always always always always always always lie.
      Lying = profit.
      Jan 4, 2018
  • Workday Scape 🐐
    For ✌️ more days
    Dec 30, 2017 1
    • Amazon 5dy5z8
      It’s almost as if this topic hasn’t already been covered 3,497 times on Blind and there isn’t a search function 🤔
      Dec 30, 2017
  • Amazon KYNQ07
    At Amazon, job levels have an incredibly wide range of comp. Like for some levels maybe 3x. They just don’t have as many levels as many companies. Given this, it helps them calibrate. Up to you if you do it. I did, and still ended up negotiating to 2.1x higher than my prior salary because my prior employer countered. Seems like I had been underpaid.
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    Sugardaddy

    Microsoft Eng

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    Amazon
    Sugardaddymore
    Don’t disclose it. Say I don’t feel comfortable disclosing it. If Amazon decides to make an offer I am sure we can work something out
    Dec 30, 2017 0
  • Oracle Summerse
    It’s a bluffing game. Do you want this job that bad to be low balled and fold? Or force them to show their hands?
    Dec 30, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng W1tCh3r
    OP
    Thanks for the replies everyone. I have decided not to pursue this opportunity anymore.
    As I take this as an early sign, of what a nightmare it'll be to deal with this recruiter.

    Thanks again.
    Jan 1, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng
      amazoni@n

      Amazon Eng

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      Deloitte, Accenture
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      L5 TAM
      amazoni@nmore
      :(
      Jan 1, 2018
  • Amazon Slu_t
    Never share salary. The 1st person to throw out a number loses. You should give a range of expectations at time of offer based on the job, work/life balance, benefits offered and expectations. The more you give up the higher that base goes. Do your research to find the range first of course. Take into account what you’ll be walking away from in terms of stock as well.
    Dec 30, 2017 1
    • Cisco / Other KCmL63
      Not true that the first person to throw out a number loses. People tend to anchor on the first number they hear. It is to your advantage to start that number, and start it high
      Dec 31, 2017
  • Amazon / Other uztH12
    Laws in California and NY are changing official policy as we speak. They will not be asking this anymore soon. But also finding out what the role actually pays is going to be a bit more difficult
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Capital One Trk106
    No you don’t. Share your target salary for the position for which you are applying. Whether or not the recruiter is legally allowed to ask that question varies by state. My company implemented policy of not asking regardless of state.
    Dec 30, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Mgmt John330
    I would simple say "I'd rather not share." They do this every day. And I doubt they share their compensation when they apply elsewhere themselves.
    As for it being "mandatory", I wouldn't be surprised if they just mean it's mandatory that they ask per their own internal process. Sneaky and misleading, sure, but it is business negotiation after all. Plus the recruiter will just be passing that info on to someone else later for negotiation, which is after the whole interviewing process anyway.
    If u hadn't drawn too much attention to it already you could probably just not answer and it would blow over. Saying its confidential is a BS answer, don't be that guy.

    When they asked me, it was over email with a bunch of questions before my in-person interview. I left "current comp" absolutely blank and answered only my target range and they never bothered me about it and ended up offering me on the high end of my target. Key data point here is the target range I gave was on the lower end, so makes sense that they didn't push for it. But.. Still stands that it's definitely not "mandatory" for you to share with them.
    Jan 1, 2018 0
  • New revsfan
    Huh? Who cares. In government and non profits pay is public. Only the employer gets a benefit from pay privacy.
    Jan 1, 2018 0
  • Revinate JPQ
    Add 10% and say that. Also state "It's not worth it for me to change jobs for less than #current salary +20% or more#"

    Disruption off of your schedule is costly, and if the bottom of the salary range isn't at least 10% higher than what you're making, it's not worth it (all else relatively equal)

    When you hesitate to answer you're a weaker candidate. Thus answer incorrectly (lol) and restate you don't have time for chump change increases.
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    amazoni@n

    Amazon Eng

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    Deloitte, Accenture
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    L5 TAM
    amazoni@nmore
    I just ignored that question, when they asked again I said I wasn't sure how it was relevant, but that I'd be happy to furnish pay stubs if provided an offer to confirm my employment with my previous firm. They didn't ask again and I got the job, and a 75% pay increase. I was also relocating from Philly to SF so cost of living was way different.
    Dec 31, 2017 0
  • Microsoft / Eng 20% raise
    Ask them what the distribution of comp is for the role.
    Dec 30, 2017 0

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