Amazon sde3 compensation

Microsoft MJBL71
Apr 24, 2018 28 Comments

How much we can negotiate for Amzn sde3 compensation? I am offered 200 stock, $145k base, and 120k bonus. Coming down to $285k / month.

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  • Cloudera databig
    285k/month lol
    Apr 24, 2018 0
  • Microsoft MJBL71
    OP
    Btw I mistyped / month instead of annum in my original post.
    Apr 24, 2018 0
  • Charles Schwab / Eng xyrcsmir!@
    How did you arrive at 285k/yr ๐Ÿค”
    Apr 24, 2018 4
    • Charles Schwab / Eng xyrcsmir!@
      Well, here was my math. Assuming the typical 4 yr vesting for RSU
      (145*4 + 120 +100 + 200) / 4 = 1000/4 = 250k/yr.
      And this isn't questioning, trying to understand as I'm soon abt to be in an offer juggling spot.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Charles Schwab / Eng xyrcsmir!@
      Aww. Gotcha.. thanks!
      Apr 24, 2018
  • LinkedIn / Eng
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    Amazon SDE3 is equivalent to Staff Software Engineer at LinkedIn and other top companies (not at Intuit/eBay/PayPal)
    The next level would be Principal.

    At LinkedIn the Staff compensation starts from 175k base + ~200k stocks
    Apr 24, 2018 4
    • Microsoft MJBL71
      OP
      Thx. So the current offer can be negotiated up to 350k total?
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Facebook gLKg44
      SDE3 is a large range. Can be anywhere from mid-senior to mid-staff.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Amazon gdSe61
      Sde3 band internally is 240-350k in seattle. Iโ€™ve seen external offers usually in the 280-330k range.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • eBay stephens
      Staff at eBay. Base is 190k
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng LyingLama
    At SDE2, comp offered to me is $150k base, 102 stocks, $64k + $48k signing bonus. Looking at your comp, I think its at the low end of SDE3 spectrum.
    Apr 26, 2018 3
    • Amazon pure666
      Wow! Congrats... Iโ€™ve seen similar sde2 offers as well.. What level you are at msft and yoe?
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng LyingLama
      I am at 61. 4+ yoe
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Amazon pure666
      ๐Ÿ‘
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Amazon RBMY63
    145+120+(1.725*10)=282,250
    145+100+(1.983*30)=304,500
    145+(2.280*80) = 326,500
    145+(2.622*80) = 354,750

    These numbers donโ€™t make the most sense. Maybe at this level the first four years just donโ€™t hit the same target. At some point giving a lot of stock that grows will do that.
    Apr 24, 2018 5
    • Microsoft Compare
      Why is your multipler on the number of shares growing year over year?
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Amazon RBMY63
      Amazon math. Assume 15% growth YoY of stock price.
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Microsoft Compare
      That's so strange that they price that into the expected compensation. The current stock price already includes expectations of future growth...
      Apr 26, 2018
    • Microsoft Mastadon
      What's the vesting percentages each year? 5, 15, 40, 40? Is that standard for AMZN?
      Apr 27, 2018
    • Amazon RBMY63
      Yes.
      12 mo, 5%
      24 mo, 15%
      30 mo, 20%
      36 mo, 20%
      42 mo, 20%
      48 mo, 20%

      This is how all starting grants below L8 work. L8+ vests quarterly because so much of their comp is stock. Donโ€™t know schedule though.
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Amazon Onfdyhs
    You can ask for 160k base which the max for Seattle. Is 120k bonus first year? Or two years combined? Also 200 rsus or 200k?
    Apr 24, 2018 2
    • Microsoft MJBL71
      OP
      120k and 100k for the first and second year, 200rsus
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Amazon Onfdyhs
      Solid offer congrats! ask for 160 base and 10k more on sign on each year they should be able to make that happen
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Amazon SSE3
    A target comp range for SDE3 in Seattle is 245k-345k. It lands at 300k-400k+ in w2 due to the performance of AMZN.
    Apr 28, 2018 0
  • Microsoft vwmC36
    Which location?
    Apr 25, 2018 0
  • Lyft whoAmI001
    360k tc
    Apr 24, 2018 0