CompensationFeb 10, 2019
Newbh64b

Any thoughts on startup options?

I joined a startup and have like 70k options in it the startup is profitable and has decent amount of customers but I need to leave it anyways for multiple reasons. The thing is its going to cost me 5k+ to buy all the options and the CEO wont even tell me the outstanding diluted shares or even exactly how much money we've raised. What should I do/ask to first determine if these shares are worth anything and what has been your experience buying options?

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Google catow Feb 10, 2019

Very situational. What’s the company?

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bh64b OP Feb 10, 2019

Cant say obviously and I can guarantee you've never heard of it.

Uber random04 Feb 10, 2019

5k is not bad, worth the investment

PG&E MaxaM Feb 10, 2019

If it’s already profitable then it sounds like a worthwhile lottery ticket.

Oscar 🐨koala Feb 10, 2019

I am on the opposite side. I would just leave and forget about the options. Keep that 5k for other uses. If we haven’t heard of it, the chance of you making any money is quite low. Might as well invest in a fund.

Akamai Technologies Jfcv74 Feb 10, 2019

Don't invest what you can't lose. If you dropped $5K out of your pocket would you be in financial trouble? If not, go for it. If you would, then it sounds like you can't afford anything but a sure bet, and this won't be that. I was able to walk away with my options for $137, and that was a no brainer. I knew they would probably be worthless (and they were, in the end), but for $137 it didn't matter.

Oscar 🐨koala Feb 10, 2019

Wow... $137 lol that means you’d make pennies.

Akamai Technologies Jfcv74 Feb 10, 2019

I made nothing, but the company DID get bought, just had so much debt. Could've easily gone the other way and even at $1/share that's $13.5K for nothing.

Flowroute xYVT46 Feb 10, 2019

Is there any info on crunchbase that points to how much they've raised? The lack of transparency from the CEO would make me walk away.

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bh64b OP Feb 10, 2019

Not a whole lot although we do have investors and apparently were still seed

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helpwanted Feb 10, 2019

5k is cheap so I'd do it but not knowing the total dilluated shares is a red flag

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bh64b OP Feb 10, 2019

Exactly my thoughts

Reddit funkfunk Feb 10, 2019

Keep in mind it may cost 5k to buy the options, but if they are ISO you will owe tax on the fair market value which may be way more than 5k

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Suckerborg Feb 10, 2019

Sounds like a shady place if the ceo doesn’t even tell the employee $ raised or outstanding shares. I bet profitable is also a lie. At seed stage, no company is profitable.