CompensationJan 11, 2019
JOANYFQuQ40

Apple Engineering Management Tiers / TC

Apple doesn't seem to have management tiers on levels.fyi. So 2 questions: 1: What are the tiers and TC for eng managers? 2: Is Apple a good place to work as a manager -- compared to other top tier places? Thanks!

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Wells Fargo JohnNahsem Jan 11, 2019

I dont know

Facebook icdN16 Jan 11, 2019

Current TC & YOE ?

Sempra Energy FilAm1959 Jan 11, 2019

I’m guessing TC is $450k

JOANY FQuQ40 OP Jan 11, 2019

I assumed close to $400k. But everything I've been able to find has been telling me, at least first year, it'll be mid $200s to low $300s if I'm lucky.

Glassdoor kafvhgdg Jan 11, 2019

People in haiti make $2/hour. Don't you feel stupid now ?

Intel Gorge Jan 11, 2019

SW or HW or non tech ?? At 8 yoe, ICT4 gives you about ~250k.

JOANY FQuQ40 OP Jan 11, 2019

SW

Apple bqdp Jan 12, 2019

What? Are you talking base or TC? 250k doesn’t sound right for either. A mid-tier ICT4 should have like 180k base and at least 300k TC (at least 20k bonus and 100k yearly RSU grants).

Apple cho Chang Jan 11, 2019

M1 would be ~330k TC at best. U would need to get M2 in order to get 500k+ TC.

JOANY FQuQ40 OP Jan 11, 2019

How hard is it to get promoted form M1 to M2? I hear ICT4 to ICT5 is super hard.

Apple P95D Jan 11, 2019

M2 is significantly easier than ICT5 in most orgs. In SWE, ICT5 needs typically Craig or multiple VP approval.

Apple Hdueib Jan 11, 2019

ICT4 = M1, ICT5 = M2, but managers get more RSU refresh

Apple P95D Jan 11, 2019

Seconded

Salesforce cantNameMe Jan 16, 2019

What's annual refresh for ICT 3 like?

Apple JobsAtApp Jan 11, 2019

I m M1 and my TC used to be 450k before slump and now it’s 360-380k.

Apple cho Chang Jan 11, 2019

Were u hired at 450k or did u get there thru refreshers?

Apple JobsAtApp Jan 12, 2019

In my case refreshers. But I have been giving ic4 offers ranging 300-400k.