Apple a Monopoly?

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May 13 26 Comments

Apple’s App Store is a monopoly and rips off startups by charging 30%(!!) per transaction. You’re also blocked from using Stripe, and they force you to use Apple Pay.

Total rip-off, what do you think?

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  • Samsung / Eng isk_kamina
    So you want to reap the benefits of a great platform for free? Why don’t you provide your startup service for free for everyone and not be a total rip off?
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    • Microsoft
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      The platform was paid for by the customer of the phones.
      May 13
    • Thermo Fisher / Sales zeussical
      If they could provide a competing service to download apps I think they would. The problem is Apple controls the whole thing and you can’t do that which seems anti-competitive to me. It also seems anti-competitive when apps that have been around for years are suddenly booted from the store when Apple decides to roll out a competing feature.
      May 13
    • Samsung / Eng isk_kamina
      That’s a good thought process to end up with shitty platforms like Microsoft’s.
      May 13
    • Microsoft
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      At least Microsoft’s platform is open. Microsoft doesn’t have the ability to stop you selling your software to other windows customers. And we shouldn’t.
      May 13
    • Thermo Fisher / Sales zeussical
      Isn’t one of the reasons why Apple argues that they can’t open their App Store is because of security and diligence that the apps will work properly with iOS? Isn’t it amazing that’s not the case all the time when apps crash or code is kept on your phone to track you when you delete an app?
      May 13
  • Microsoft
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    As a user I’m grateful that the App Store is a one stop shop for any iPhone app and that I can be reasonably sure the app I download isn’t gonna be malware. It costs Apple money to provide that service, and 30% is reasonable
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  • Veritas randomhand
    No since there’s the google play store
    May 13 0
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    If you never ran a startup you would never know. Apple is a monopoly. This has been an issue for companies like Spotify and AMZ.

    Apple’s has a bigger market share in Greater Seattle Area (Snohomish, King and Pierce county).
    May 13 1
    • BluVector sparked
      That’s some impressive gatekeeping; run a startup or your opinion is invalid
      May 13
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  • Google smellypoop
    Use Google store or if it's a popular app, put the apk file on a secure server for people to download and install. Screw apple.
    May 13 1
    • Twitch / Eng
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      Yeah... But like... Ios controls a huge market share... So gg to that customer base?
      May 13
  • Dropbox EGmQ80
    30% is not a reasonable cut and duopolies are nearly as bad as monopoly. However the US has a very narrow definition of anti trust in recent decades and so won't interfere.
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  • BluVector sparked
    They aren’t a monopoly as they don’t even have the largest mobile store platform.

    That being said, as with all of the FAANG members there is a question as to whether you can be a platform while also competing on your platform where you clearly have either an advantage or in apple’s case outright ban potential competition
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    Take Spotify for example with a simple math.

    Free downloads and free use of service.

    Premium service at $9.99 a month. Beautifully done.

    1000 monthly subscribers at $9.99 = $9,990 total revenue. Apple takes $2,997

    Not a fair game.
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    • Twitch / Eng
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      They pushed out some response paper to that. And to be fair, it's uncertain if either side is completely right
      May 13
    • Samsung / Eng isk_kamina
      Take goooooooggle for example. Don’t charge anything from anyone and sell all the user data for probably more money. Not a fair game either
      May 13
  • ConocoPhillips Beep Beep
    Is amazon a monopoly for selling to the amazon market?
    May 13 0
  • Facebook public2
    Nah, I think most people understand if they get into the apple world they will be gouged for things and pay 40 bucks for charge cables etc.
    May 13 0
  • Salesforce / HR fantasyfox
    It’s a bit gray, IMO. Apple isn’t a monopoly in that they have the only store in to buy/install apps for a smartphone. However, they are a monopoly in that they operate the only store available for the smartphones they sell. Google doesn’t operate the only store for Android, and I can install other markets straight to my phone or even side load an app without too much friction. iOS has non-store install methods, but the least complicated route requires you to jailbreak the device. I would love to see other iOS store options, similar to Setapp for macOS.
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    • Apple shdhdhdj
      Technically, it’s possible. But There’s many reasons you don’t want another store. It’s about security, privacy and user experience. We put a lot of effort in making sure all of those. Can’t guarantee privacy if you let any app running on the platform
      May 17
  • Apple shdhdhdj
    There’s a lot of work maintaining the App Store, platform, and making sure that it’s secured, and easy for users, etc. If u think about it, it’s not totally unreasonable. The price may be high for Spotify, but it’s really cheap for startups which don’t generate big revenue
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      I can see 15% fee. Not 30%.
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  • New / IT nPkV01
    A walled garden yes; far from a monopoly though. They’re offering a platform to launch off of, if you don’t like their terms then figure out your own solution, nobody is forcing you to use them.
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