Cali: where liberals go to die

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Jan 2 32 Comments

I’ve been left my whole life. Lived in Europe for a while and didn’t mind the high tax rate bc I felt like the community was getting back a lot in return.

Can someone explain why California is a model for left-wing policies? Why should I be ok spending 30% on taxes when healthcare is shit for most, homelessness is rampant, public education is a disaster, etc.

One counter argument is that Bay Area undermines its own liberal policies by giving corporations huge tax breaks. Meanwhile Spotify is leaving bc shit is so bad..

Also I could never say I’m right either - we need more parties that represent a broader range of diverse ideologies.

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  • Axon / Mgmt
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    Bbbbbbbbbamore
    Checked. Federal government gave CA 368 million tax money in 2015. Roughly 95k each person. Wait till federal government get fed up with CA and freeze the fund, then we will see if the game that the liberals play is sustainable.
    Jan 2 4
    • Microsoft / Eng baahubalee
      I didn't get the math? CA population was 40 million, so 368M /40M which is < $10 each, which is 3 cents per day per person.
      Jan 2
    • VMware BobbleHat
      It seems Axon gets their math education from Fox/Trump
      Jan 3
    • Apple / Eng Eckel
      Trying to fact check a republican? Come on, it’s been more than 2 years since we learnt that lesson!
      Jan 3
    • Pinger / Eng create💻
      No he's right. I counted, and there are only 4000 people in California.
      Jan 3
  • Facebook / Eng tynext
    It's the model because once you see 60-80% of the US you'll go running back.
    Jan 2 4
    • Facebook QWERnnnnn
      OP
      lol fair point
      Jan 2
    • IBM ooei73
      Like where for example. I’m born and raised in SoCal and have seen most of the country other places aren’t that bad. I would say California is about equal to Texas in terms of how it looks.
      Jan 3
    • Apple / Eng Eckel
      Try raising your kids in Mississippi for a year IBM first
      Jan 3
    • Google / Eng ;O 𓂺
      The rest of the US is trash. There's about 4-5 cities I'd consider living in, otherwise I'd just take my family to China and live my life as an exotic white pet.
      Jan 3
  • Google / Eng ;O 𓂺
    Prop 13 and other such policies effectively shifts the burden of funding CA on to you. Old people in CA are entitled moochers.
    Jan 2 4
    • IBM ooei73
      Shut up I hope we never change prop 13. Who wants to pay 30k in property tax a year
      Jan 3
    • Uber kisht
      They can phase it in. That'll allow people to make the right monetary choices.
      Jan 3
    • Google / Eng ;O 𓂺
      Lol. Pay your fair share.
      Jan 3
    • When I bought my CA house every kid in the school district saw a $2 funding raise for the teaching/admin (2300% property tax increase). Prop 13 screws children. Just the type of thing a republican would do to children (Howard Jarvis, 1978). Old child abusers support Prop 13. You guys are no better than Catholic priests!
      Jan 4
  • New DuQvV7x
    Move here to IN

    Healthcare is shit
    Public schools are shit
    Homelessness is NOT rampant (many freeze to death every winter)

    Federal, state & local taxes here exceed. 30% though. We also have School District tax in Indianapolis and none of that pesky Prop 13 to limit property taxes.

    But you’ll love it here. We’ve got God, guns and bigger guns.
    Jan 3 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    goldbug

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    We pay a lot of taxes and government still has no money.
    Jan 2 0
  • Microsoft Big Pun
    So move?
    Jan 2 4
    • Facebook QWERnnnnn
      OP
      I am
      Jan 2
    • WeWork / Eng AOfu71
      Like now? What took you so long?
      Jan 3
    • Facebook QWERnnnnn
      OP
      How do you know how long I’ve been here?
      Jan 3
    • Flagged by the community.

  • Capital One OFvT33
    Neocon Liberalism
    Jan 2 0
  • MuleSoft Damndaniel
    🍿
    Jan 2 0
  • Google mubj
    Compared to other states, both healthcare and education are great. Moved to CA for these two.
    Jan 2 1
    • New
      Mr.Green

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      Someone's high af
      Jan 3
  • Dropbox drl/food
    The right is just as diverse as the left, join us. 😈
    Jan 3 0
  • US Navy / IT Boonaki
    If they didn't give them tax breaks, they wouldn't be there.
    Jan 2 0
  • Apple fu manchu
    True. All this tax and for what? Third world infrastructure and no single payer. We’ll get there eventually. The problem is the feds take the lion share of our taxes and then waste it on a global military empire and tax cuts for the rich. If Cali was its own country it would be better off. But succession is a pie in the sky.
    Jan 3 1
    • Uber / Eng nYf6sJ
      If Cali is its own country, its name would be Mexico.
      Jan 3
  • Shell Manny1
    Hope you know California has more residents than any other state and the higher taxes and fees are ways to get revenue to keep it running as best as possible. You pay more taxes if you earn more and less if you earn less and unfortunately California has a lot more fewer high income earners hence the burden is much more on the higher income earners . I don’t know of any state that can manage its economy like California and somehow it still has the largest economy in the country. We all know it’s far from perfect and a lot of work needs to be done, but please stop the comparison if you don’t understand how economy works. Just so you know the generous tax breaks giving to cooperations are just some ways to make them stay in California and not take their business elsewhere. You get something at least by keeping them in the state. California has to stay competitive and I do understand the frustration but there is no magic formula to solve the situation yet.
    Jan 3 0
  • Oath / Eng fat
    > healthcare is shit for most, homelessness is rampant, public education is a disaster

    Is that just your personal perspective or you have hard data to back that up?
    Jan 3 0

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