Compensation

Canada Offer

Cavium vitaminQ
Dec 6

Location: Ontario, Canada
Base : 110,000 CAD
Options: 3500
Visa: Express Entry

Current TC
Location: Bay Area
Hardware Engineer
$160,000 USD
H1B
Experience: 5+ years

With salary levels being so low in CN, not sure if it is the right move 🤔

Your comments are appreciated.

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  • Microsoft XxyyzzCcbb
    Canada: if you like crazy cold winters lasting 6 months, way less money - check the exchange rate and divide 110,000 by 1.3 to get the US equivalent, overpriced housing market, mediocre public school system, long hospital waits, and overcrowded cities. Don’t make a mistake- if you have a choice US is thousands times better.
    Dec 66
    • Microsoft MSNutella
      I completely agree with this. I live in Toronto and US is 1000 times better
      Dec 6
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Well with RFE’s on H1B transfer and long waits on PERM , I am not able to take a stand.. just applied and got a job offer , now thinking 🤔
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft MSNutella
      Are you Indian? Why not work in your home country? Sorry, just thinking..
      Dec 7
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Yes I am. Got used to the lifestyle and comfort here. Also $$
      Dec 7
    • New / OtherAuntHilda
      I somehow feel that folks in Canada responding here are giving negative reviews of Canada because they don't want too many people moving there 😁
      Dec 7
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Hahaha 😂
      Dec 8
  • EMC noppos
    Living expenses are lower in Canada unless it is Vancouver... in Bay Area for most people more than 30% salary is spent in rent and most just dream of buying homes ...
    Dec 63
    • Microsoft MSNutella
      What are you talking about. Toronto is not cheap - 1bed room in downtown Toronto is CAD2200. + taxes
      Dec 6
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      True Toronto housing rents are almost similar to Bay Area
      Dec 6
    • Amazon porkgoon
      A downtown Toronto rent for a 1 bed in a condo is 2200+ CAD. The equivalent place in SF would be 3500+ USD. Toronto's expensive, but not close to SF and you still get a lot more for the price.
      Dec 7
  • Canada seems to the best option out of two. Peaceful life over money any day
    Dec 60
  • Amazon Jm22
    Peace of mind and minimal likelihood of you getting killed by a gun. Choose Canada.
    Dec 60
  • LinkedIn Hrghtf
    Have you even googled Ontario?

    Here’s how the 3 months of Winter will be -

    “Winter - December 21 to March 19
    In winter, it is cold and, depending which area you live in, it may snow often. The temperature in most of the province is often below 0°C, day and night. Temperatures can drop below -30°C, which can be dangerous”

    Below 0 day and night for 3 months.

    Now check your Mountain View weather for the next week.
    Dec 63
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Ok let’s say I make it through the winter also let’s remove the weather factor from our discussion. Now tell me is it worth the move ?
      Dec 6
    • LinkedIn Hrghtf
      110k cad is 80k usd. You will take a 50% pay cut and go to a place with 3 months below 0?
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft XxyyzzCcbb
      Realtor.ca- check the prices of the houses and Bay Area may seem cheap all of a sudden. Winter is not three months, it starts in November and gets bearable in May
      Dec 6
  • Microsoft MSNutella
    OP, I am Canadian citizen and live in Toronto. I would love to work in the US. US experience is invaluable.
    Dec 63
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      What is your background, I can help
      Dec 6
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Can you please share what is the average salary for an engineer with 6 YOE in Toronto? Also how’s the cost of living and social life ?
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft MSNutella
      ~100k TC . Living in Toronto is super expensive: 2200CAD/month rent, eating out is expensive ( meal at Mc Donald’s is ~10bucks) however eating at sit down restaurant without alcohol would cost you 20-25 bucks. Also, keep in mind that with 100k you will be taking home around 62-63k.
      Dec 7
  • New / OtherAuntHilda
    I recommend taking it. You will be put of the rat race and folks on ON will value your background. Also, very few folks there make in six figures unlike here in bay area where you are laughed at if you aren't part of 6 figure club. Congratulations and good luck.
    Dec 62
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Thanks , Toronto cost of living is almost similar to Bay Area. I did some math and feel the difference in saving might be $20K/year less in ON compared to US, but now you have a PERM, freedom to travel and take off from work for a math or two ...
      Dec 6
    • New / OtherAuntHilda
      You got it.
      Dec 6
  • Blackstone 751hbw2
    Express Entry means PR and you can be a citizen soon after in a great peaceful country, no matter how you look at it, the US is hostile towards foreigners at this time, don’t waste your life on H1B.
    Dec 61
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      I completely agree , with the current Visa situation in the US , Canada seems to be a better option , but then at what cost ... I loose my network , chances of joining another start up , getting funding , innovation or at the least find another job in no time. This where I am not able to judge, it will be like starting all over again in a new land like I did 8 years ago
      Dec 6
  • Boeing / OpsAirbus
    But ontario.. do you really want to stay?
    Dec 61
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Isn’t Toronto comparatively better than other parts of CN ?
      Dec 6
  • Cisco can6
    If you are in California, then you won't feel much difference in taxes.. 110CAD can give you better living there than 160k in SF area
    7d0
  • Nokia sdk10
    Winter is not bad . You will feel it for 1st year. Next year on ward you won't even realize that it's winter. You will just get used to weather. Usually Jan to March is worse in winter, it goes around -20 to -30c but if you are well prepared in advance,use layered clothing,You should be fine. You will just get used to it. Don't worry about winter that shouldn't be your concern while moving. From TC point of view, you will be taking cut but you are getting stability. TC can always grow. 110k is not bad. Don't stay in expensive area. You don't need to stay in downtown to pay 2200pm. Live in other areas. couple of my friends paying 2 bed condo 1200-1400 range in Mississauga, Scarborough etc. You can use online tax calculator to see how much you will take home...expect to pay avg tax rate of 30+ at least. You should be getting 75k in hand approximately.
    Dec 71
  • Amazon porkgoon
    Which company?
    Dec 60
  • New VSwf01
    Taxes are high. If you're American your will face double taxation
    Dec 62
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      klokovmore
      He is not, he has mentioned he’s on H1B .
      Dec 6
    • Cavium vitaminQ
      OP
      Yes H1B
      Dec 6
  • Cisco Boo 🕸
    +1 Thanks for the data point!
    Dec 60

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