Career growth at Apple, Facebook, Google?

Apple / EngNRxt00
Jul 29, 2018 21 Comments

Can someone give a comparison of the opportunities for growth at Apple, Facebook, and Google? Are they pretty similar or noticeably different? I.e. where can I get higher levels/TC faster?

I just joined Apple, so don’t really know how it works here. I’m an engineer and looking for the best balance of growth and mobility, as I don’t want to be stuck to one technology or doing one thing for my whole career.

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  • Apple
    TomCoke

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    G>F>A
    Jul 29, 20183
    • Apple Hgvmjytf
      I would even say G > F == A
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Amazon Planck
      But... Google is nototously slow to promote and FB has all sorts of overpromoted tinpot L8s pulling in millions a year. G has tons of brilliant but overqualified engineers making tweaks and bigfixes who leave because of lack of impact and growth opportunities.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Google burnaaaa
      Huh. I would’ve guessed F > G >> A
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Microsoft IEjP42
    You own your growth plan. It’s not limited nor is it defined for you at any company.
    Jul 29, 20181
    • Apple / EngNRxt00
      OP
      But certainly if you work just as hard across all, promotions could arrive at different times, no? Plus I guess if your coworkers work harder at one place that can push you to work harder as well, but let’s leave that out of the equation
      Jul 29, 2018
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    • LinkedIn Pretakalpa
      E3 to E5 in just 2 years !!!! Is that common in FB? What would be the avg tenure for E3 to E5 in FB?
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Facebook / EngUWBE87
      Wouldn't say it's common but is possible. Just giving a data point that shows FB is willing to move you upwards quickly, which I haven't heard elsewhere
      Jul 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn Pretakalpa
      Wow congratulations on the awesome work. What would you say about the avg tenure in FB to go from E3 to E5? Btw are you a SWE?
      Jul 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn Pretakalpa
      Also when does one become eligible to switch to the management track? Is it possible to move from E4 to M1 or you have to be E5 and above?
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Facebook / EngUWBE87
      Yeah I'm SWE. Average might be 3.5-4 yrs. And you can be eligible to go from E5 -> M0 earliest
      Jul 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn Pretakalpa
      Thanks for sharing :)
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Facebook Whatzi
      I’ve heard some orgs are phasing out M0, meaning you need to get to E6 to switch to the management track (M1). Ymmv
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Facebook / EngRedWitch
    I think f is faster than g. Rockstars can get level 5 in 2-3 years, then 6 in another 2 years. The promotion process has less process than google so it seems easier to get your promo through here
    Jul 29, 20180
  • Facebook / Engunicorn-
    FB is by far the best option if you want to grow and learn as an engineer who wants to build things that are used. Because the ship cycle is fast and the products are deployed to a large audiences or at a huge scale for Infra - you get to test your thinking and assumptions. At a startup, you can ship quickly but you have very few users while Google you have a 50/50 of never shipping. Google is a better option if you want to get deeper theoretically but don’t care as much if your ideas would really work.
    Jul 29, 20180
  • Google WjSp40
    F has faster growth, G has better wlb. G has more diverse opportunities if you want breadth. Comp wise g == f > a
    Jul 29, 20180
  • Apple / Eng
    love 🍎

    AppleEng

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    G,f,A
    Jul 29, 20183
    • eBay BuyBuyBuy
      Why are the promotion opportunities at Apple the slowest in your opinion?
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Apple / Engcho Chang
      Very difficult to reach level 5 at Apple
      Jul 29, 2018
    • eBay BuyBuyBuy
      What’s the tc range for level 5
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Tesla kBoC50
    How do you go from 5 to 6 at fb?
    Jul 29, 20180

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