Choose between Uber and google

Workday / Eng 1112
Apr 23, 2018 156 Comments

Got 2 offers,

Uber senior 2: TC 400k per year assume $40 per share Rsu

Google l4: TC 330k per year

I knew level wise Uber senior 2 is much better than google l4 which is not negotiable

But google is much closer for commute, better team gcp, better benefit, culture and prestige.

Wondering am I too weird if I refer google over Uber?

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  • Amazon / Eng
    Hooliganss

    Amazon Eng

    BIO
    AWS
    Hooliganssmore
    Being assured a solid team is huge. Would take Google. And, a shorter commute is nothing to sneeze at.
    Apr 23, 2018 1
  • Uber knbguiut
    L4 getting a L5b at Uber? Lololololo
    Apr 23, 2018 4
    • Uber Pir4te
      My thoughts exactly
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Google nobody.
      Yeah, seems odd. L5b seems significantly further ahead in terms of leadership
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Uber catesby
      Man I knew we’re desperate to hire. But didn’t realize shit was *this dire*.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber Pir4te
      ^it really isn’t. We down level like crazy
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Akamai Technologies / Other Techrulez
    For those advising to take a job because of a higher level ranking/title... how important is a title outside of said organization? I personally would take better commute/benefits/pay.
    Apr 23, 2018 9
    • Uber s8t7kup
      I think it depends on the size. Big company will look at your level and use that. They don't need you that much. Smaller company won't care about your current level, if they want you, they will inflate your title of that's what it takes
      Apr 24, 2018
    • New yhspz
      I am confident that big companies, especially, look at past experience and technical ability to determine level. My current role has no particular title but I was still offered senior swe from uber...
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber s8t7kup
      Uber is a startup which has been "struggling" to attract talent recently. Hence the inflated title vs Google.

      Also if you come from a small startup, then yes title are meaningless. Years of experience will be what companies look at. If you come from a bigger company, title is more important than experience.

      So basically, if you move from/to a small company title doesn't matter much. If not then it does
      Apr 24, 2018
    • New yhspz
      Probably not much of a concern then, unless your heart is set on fang. How are you finding uber? Sounded a little sweat shopish from the devs I spoke to.. burn out must still be an issue.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber s8t7kup
      I enjoyed my time at Google way more than my time at Uber. But salary wise Uber seems better (we will see after IPO).
      Now, I'm not burn out, I take plenty of vacation, but I feel the manquent is really bad and there is too much internal competition between teams
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Uber Dheos
    I’m from Uber and is advising you to go for Google because of better team... You can always come to Uber after your stint at Google. We love ex-Googlers!
    Apr 23, 2018 5
    • Uber Gmie27
      I agree with Dheos.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Uber Dheos
      Steve got it right... It is Google vs Uber. And Google got better team according to OP... So Uber won’t be able to beat that anymore...
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Lyft Lki6790
      You Uber folks sure do love google...google tech that is
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Uber Dheos
      Don’t worry. We love Facebook, Apple, Netflix employees too... Basically all the FAANG people. Sometimes we love Lyft employees too. So you still got our love. 💖
      Apr 23, 2018
    • New xbbebe
      What about Doordash people.
      Dec 18, 2018
  • Apple / Eng Tim Book
    I would take Uber. Always take the higher level
    Apr 23, 2018 7
    • Uber Gmie27
      Why? Level is just a label.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Microsoft MjfZ
      Right, it is just a label. However, the next company will use that against you if you plan to move up the ladder
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Google / Eng OAGb68
      Label is sth the next company will take as ground truth.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Shampain
      It's a ladder
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber BlueApron
      Sr 2 is 2 levels above L4. You can decide on your own, how long will it take you to get 2 promotions at G?
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Google Westfield
    Uber secondary shares are at $33 and preferred share at $48. Since no one is getting preferred stock now, Wondering how did you get to $40? Was it just average of the two?
    Apr 23, 2018 5
    • New / Eng
      Unipate

      New Eng

      PRE
      Uber, Amazon
      BIO
      Code of the Road
      Unipatemore
      Uber recruiters will lie and misrepresent the share price. They did it to me.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Microsoft Exity
      Uber said 80$ to me when I had joined
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Uber osEc88
      Recruiters sell the dream, 10x growth, millionaire, etc.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Microsoft
      L62

      Microsoft

      PRE
      Amazon
      L62more
      Way too late for that.

      Uber should be giving out more though it sounds like.
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Uber Pir4te
      No ones selling the millionaire dream now lol. It’s much more realistic with the new comp structure
      Apr 27, 2018
  • Microsoft Bad Hombre
    How many years of experience?
    Apr 23, 2018 16
    • Google wEpu72
      Yea, I know ppl who worked for 11yeas without an advanced degree now is l6
      Apr 23, 2018
    • New nWAo15
      Go with Uber, reapply Google in 6 months for L5
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Airbnb pyVE35
      In general companies would rather put someone in too low of a level rather than too high of a level. You might be set up for a relatively quick promo and TC jump if you can demonstrate operation at an L5 level
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Amazon
      0382zzxjwo

      Amazon

      BIO
      Fuck you
      0382zzxjwomore
      Unless they’re a diversity higher..
      Apr 25, 2018
    • Uber ubergoog
      Being a recruiter at both companies, definitely go Uber. Systems design interview must have gone poorly @ Google. Interview again in 1-2 years and by that time your Uber equity will be close to liquidity
      Apr 26, 2018
  • Microsoft icode
    Google all the way. Best tech company m
    Apr 23, 2018 10
    • Square / Eng SQ
      It's just an illusion though. Smaller companies keep saying impact but how do you quantify it? I worked at a startup where I was 70% of the iOS codebase. We had MAU of 3000. I would have had much more "impact" at a company where I was 1/100 of the iOS codebase but reaching ten million people.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      It's always tough for not established businesses. To me there is a critical mass when things become great. And then there is a greater critical mass when things turn from great to sucky. If there is a such thing as a startup within a bigger company then this is generally what makes that job better than ones around.

      I have nothing to complain at Uber. I don't work on the "bleeding edge" of things but my team is tiny and we create ripples across the company. If that weren't the case, I'd be a gonner long time ago. I don't see myself working anywhere but Uber or some small company. F G or any other monsters make me sick.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Google Westfield
      We are a tiny team as well and we are creating ripples across the industry(one that we compete in). We are the fastest growing in out segment.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Uber ZombieZoo
      How many other people at G can say that?
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Google Westfield
      Looking at the scale of so many products at G, there are lot of people who would say that. Of course there would be lot of people at G, who are not having much impact. But I think such people exist in all companies of decent size.
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Google / Product callofwild
    100% google, if you replaced Uber with almost any other major tech company, I would say probably that company.
    Apr 23, 2018 2
    • Google Facebook
      Unless you’ve replaced it with FB
      Apr 23, 2018
    • New yhspz
      I thought fb is another burn and churn similar to amzn/uber.
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Uber am no one
    What prestige does Google give you? 9 years of experience JUNIOR developer? It only make you look bad. You’re good not because you join Google (actually many people are not strong there), you’re good because you’re good.
    Apr 24, 2018 3
    • Workday / Eng 1112
      OP
      Yea I agree, Uber interviewed me technical + tech leadership which I did both well. But google is all coding ds algo, my good tech leadership and communication can not be demonstrated with such google interview much.
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Apple a1z2x3c4
      Didn’t you have more advanced System design like questions in Google? But probably Google doesn’t have anything specific for leadership skills. Also were you interviewing for roles with domain specific skills like machine learning, computer vision, etc?
      Apr 24, 2018
    • SK hynix / Eng Memory Sol
      This is what one of our guys got screwed on, an experienced domain expert interviewed by out of domain its on unrelated algo and then rejected.

      Come on, think about it, why would you use NP hard problem to interview firmware people?
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Facebook cluggsalot
    Choosing between Uber and google is like choking between a turd and a bar of gold.
    Apr 23, 2018 1
    • Lyft examazon
      Which one is which? What's Facebook?
      Jun 1, 2018
  • Microsoft wfhome
    Sounds like Google is more fun. Sometimes work is not just about money, but fun and convenience count a lot as well.
    Apr 23, 2018 1
    • Snapchat Aeeeyo
      Google more fun? That’s literally the opposite of why people leave google. All google lifers I have worked with have been deeply disappointing (non engineering) and massively low performing...must be all that fun then
      May 25, 2018
  • Uber jdJH54
    From a career and comp perspective Uber is a clear winner, 5b is a tough level to achieve so you must have interviewed well. But you should go with the company and team you are most excited about. I chose Uber over Google a few years ago and haven’t regretted it. The opportunities for growth and leadership are huge at Uber, and you are getting in pre-IPO. You can always go to Google later.
    Apr 25, 2018 0
  • Amazon w1n
    I'd be glad to provide my input but first, please, help me choose between poop or pizza for dinner 🙃
    Apr 23, 2018 3
    • Akamai Technologies / Other QWERTee
      Haha
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Google / Product callofwild
      Is the 💩 going to IPO soon?
      Apr 23, 2018
    • Oracle Yestheory
      Poopizza? You're welcome!
      Apr 23, 2018
  • Houseparty usenthrow
    Going from l4 to l6 at Google will take five years and the l5 to 6 jump is difficult. Also l4 and l6 are just very different jobs. I would never join as a 4 if I was a 6 in an equivalent company, and Uber and Google are equivalent engineering organizations in terms of Junior level talent
    Apr 23, 2018 0
  • Uber TpBJ35
    I wouldn't say that G culture is better. At Uber the scope of projects and ability to influence them would be much larger. I would never go back to G despites the much better perks.
    Apr 23, 2018 2
    • Snapchat Aeeeyo
      How much better are the perks? I’m thinking of taking my Uber offer but still doing some dd
      May 25, 2018
    • Uber TpBJ35
      Google has a better travel policy. Better food. They pay your base for the family if you die. Uber has unlimited vacation policy which is awesome.
      May 25, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng Ksiwuehfbr
    Go to Uber - huge growth potential!
    Apr 23, 2018 0
  • Salesforce geoduck
    I would bring that uber offer to Google and negotiate for L5 and a better TC. With you 9 yoe and a Senior 2 offer from Uber, it is clear that you are being low balled by Google. If they don't negotiate, just walk away with the uber offer.
    Apr 23, 2018 0
  • Uber Agjircf
    Google l4 is 2 level below Uber Sr 2. I would take Uber.
    Apr 23, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Exity
    Google
    Apr 23, 2018 0