Cisco offer eval

Amazon I’mHiring
Aug 13, 2018 26 Comments

SE3 offer at Cisco: 128k base plus 12% annual bonus. No stocks no joining bonus. Please evaluate this offer.

Asking for a friend with ~5 years experience in Bay Area.

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  • Oscar / Eng Flatiron
    “Asking for a friend” 😂 so much shame to go to Cisco!
    Aug 13, 2018 0
  • Cisco zark muck
    That's new grad base salary. Ask your "friend" to negotiate hard
    Aug 13, 2018 7
    • Amazon I’mHiring
      OP
      Not sure, they were told SE3. What does that translate to in terms of grade?
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Cisco zark muck
      Grade 8. Which company is his past experience at?

      I joined at grade 10 a few years ago with 135k, 15% bonus and 40k stocks. That 40k is worth a 100k now.

      They had some market correction for bands this year where the base salaries for external hires are much higher.
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Amazon I’mHiring
      OP
      They work at Ciena.
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Cisco zark muck
      Ok, that probably explains. Not a direct competitor
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Cisco GPJL00
      Market correction only for external hires? Since there’s no comp ratio anymore what is typical for G6/8/9/10 base? For Eng / IT?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon gKoV81
    Isn’t 128K entry level Bay Area salary?
    Aug 13, 2018 4
    • Amazon I’mHiring
      OP
      Ya clearly lowballed. But i want to understand what to expect from Cisco instead? Shocking to know they don’t give stocks?
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Amazon gKoV81
      Not sure. I’m not familiar with the company to say either way but for an SDE 3 that seems like it is fake. Or is the job now on Bay Area?
      Aug 13, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng TClA47
      SE3 means grade 8. Unless something changed over the last year, you will not see generally any RSU at that level. When you're grade 10 (se4) you could get something roughly every other year, but it won't be massive for sure. Salary is typical, but you should be able to push it slightly I think. Bonus you will get will usually be above the target. Of course there is a lot of 'it depends' here, but I'd say it looks like an average offer for this level.
      Aug 13, 2018
    • Cisco math.guy
      I and many colleagues of mine have RSUs (not a lot though) at se2 grade6. Managers act like it is pretty special though. TC at Cisco is shit, so who cares.
      Aug 23, 2018
  • Cisco WvKq32
    Dude I am Grade 8 SE3 with 146k base in Bay area. Recently joined a high impact BU which had a specific requirement and my tech stack kind of matched with excellent interviews.

    But 128 is too far away, its more like top of range grade 6. Also ask for Sign On bonus
    Aug 14, 2018 4
    • Cisco / Eng pnUt30
      Wow. Didn't know grade 8 went that far. Good for u.
      Aug 14, 2018
    • Cisco Hwy101
      This is not the norm.. your salary is far higher than other g10 I know
      Aug 15, 2018
    • Cisco Gfers
      G8 125-135- is lowest band.
      G6 fresh college grad gets 125.
      Try to negotiate till 150-155 at-least, if not ask for additional joining bonus.
      Aug 16, 2018
    • Cisco math.guy
      Can confirm, but 150 will be hard to get
      Aug 23, 2018
  • Cisco / Eng dippam
    it's new hire salary
    Aug 20, 2018 0
  • Cisco / QA blindguide
    Seems like a fair salary to me but i am on the east coast. If this is the best/only offer your friend has, this is what he will get. If he has a better offer, he should take the other better offer. All engineers are not created equal and what someone gets at the highest end vs what you get offered is a recipe for a lot of heartburn. No grade 8 has access to salary info so take the band info brandished here with skepticism.

    Ask for higher base, rsu, sign on but if they say this is as the best offer, he may just have to take it. Cisco has a lot of intangibles like wlb, wfh, decent benefits etc. good luck.
    Aug 17, 2018 0
  • Cisco pj.thegame
    grade 8 should have RSUs. base depends on what team you join coz the team may not be working on something that is not high impact. had it been high impact, it would be 140+ and some RSUs, not much. tell them to negotiate now coz Cisco is not good with increments
    Aug 15, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Eng pnUt30
    Yeah, that's grade 8 but on the high end, salary ranges can only go so far on a grade, so his next hike should include a grade change which will bring a higher bonus target. No stocks seems typical, you can get some RSUs depending on the group. I'd say that's average for the grade and yoe.
    Aug 14, 2018 0
  • Cisco Hwy101
    Ask for joining bonus
    Aug 14, 2018 0
  • Amazon #MyHashtag
    My SDE4 salary was $122k (after promotion) with 15% target bonus.
    Aug 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon I’mHiring
    OP
    Also they get paid way more in their current job
    Aug 13, 2018 0