PoliticsJan 13, 2019
MicrosoftAngloSaxon

Conservatism == Corporatism

What is it that conservatives supposedly “conserve”? A. Families? No. The birth rate is below the replacement rate. Single motherhood is at an all time high. Marriage is a luxury for the upper class. B. Limited Government? Definitely NO. C. Cohesive Country? Nope. The ‘melting pot’ is a joke. All measures of civic health are lower in more diverse areas. As far as I can tell conservatives (eg Mitt Romney) really conserve free market corporatism. Am I right? What programs do conservatives advocate to make society better?

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Oath Atinlay Jan 13, 2019

Biased much? Also Romney is a bad example

Microsoft AngloSaxon OP Jan 13, 2019

Any economic system that weakens or destroys families is not worth having. The current economic system is an enemy of a healthy society.

Oath Atinlay Jan 13, 2019

The economy is better than it has been in a LONG time.

Amazon vmprwrkday Jan 13, 2019

B is partly wrong. They want government to be just small enough to fit in your bedroom.

Apple hMWF54 Jan 13, 2019

Then why under GOP federal budget doesn’t shrink?

Amazon vmprwrkday Jan 13, 2019

This was more of a quip then a pure policy analysis. But since you asked, my take is that, since the deficit is essentially a ratio of income to expenses and income and expenses are tightly coupled in the macroeconomy, the GOP’s aversion to taxes lowers gov’t income and their commitment to military activity adds expenses, altering the income/expenses ratio toward a deficit.

Amazon vmprwrkday Jan 13, 2019

But you’re on to something with your conclusion. At its heart politics are about power, and conservatives aim to preserve the prevailing power structure above all else (conversely, progressives want to upend it). A natural outcome of that instinct is that conservatives support the already wealthy and powerful, which of course includes corporations, business interests, etc. Approaching it in an amoral fashion like this makes it more understandable I’ve found.

Fitbit Wished Jan 13, 2019

Good insight 👍🏻

Oracle droned Jan 13, 2019

And the leftists aren’t all about power? Quite naive of you. But probably on purpose to make your vapid point.

Sirius XM HfIbQ65 Jan 13, 2019

Establishment Republicans and Democrats have been corporatist for a very long time.

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allboutda$ Jan 13, 2019

Politics is game of power over spending public purse collected forcedfully from taxes......throughout history in every nation state. Rhetoric is how they convince the masses that they should get the power, but friends always get paid first

Google Uusl71 Jan 13, 2019

A. Doesn't make sense to me, this (single motherhood rate for example), is something conservatives explicitly have issues with and call out as a problem that they'd like fixed (whether or not that's possible). Also, you're framing of marriage as a privilege of the upper class is disingenuous, the changing attitudes on marriage has more to due with cultural shifts than economics. Marriage is accessible independent of economics. B. Agree on this one, I think this is why there's a small budding libertarian movement at the moment is because the Republican party draws it's government involvement conveniently on social vs fiscal issues. The religious right has hijacked the party to use the government to wage moral wars which are inconsistent with conservatism. C. I'm not sure the point you're trying to drive here, are you arguing against diversity? Or somehow arguing that it's due to conservatives that more diverse communities are struggling? Most conservatives (at least fiscally) are huge proponents of the idea that there is no fair way for the government to distribute resources *without* the possibility for collusion. Seeing the free market as the fairest way to distribute resources (because the value of goods is derived from consumers using them) whether or not that thesis is correct is up for debate (especially in the case of market failures)

Microsoft Dr. Fill Jan 13, 2019

Whom progressives support? Democrats are as powerfull and rich. The US is a corporatist oligarchy.

Amazon vmprwrkday Jan 13, 2019

I think in this case it’s better to separate conservatives and progressives from US political parties, which act largely as fundraising vehicles. I think it’s entirely possible to be both a Democrat and conservative at the same time.

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allboutda$ Jan 13, 2019

Unfortunately progressives have become tax the professional class to give more hand outs to underclass in order to prevent working class revolt against billionares....

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allboutda$ Jan 13, 2019

Democrats support corporations who serve stupid masses (consumer tech, fast food, retail, entertainment, wall st.). Republicans support corporations associated with traditional basic industries ( big oil, big agriculture energy, military tech, healthcare) It is all money to subsidize their friends. Welfare is not for the poor, but for big corporate farms, loan guarantees are subsidies for banks, etc. Whrn an industry is really gurting, thats when they get together and throw all they have at both parties to get government subsidies, bailouts or contracts. You see nobody really cares about the middle class.

Credit Karma EllisDee25 Jan 13, 2019

Wow, conservatives on Blind are such easy bait for white supremacists. Alt-right: well your not really all that conservative? Conservatives: oh yah, am too! Alt-right: well what have republicans done to stop brown people from “replacing” whites? Conservatives: a lot, that’s what! Alt-right: what about the plots by Jews—errrr I mean elietes? Conservatives: oh I hate the elites too and their secret plots to import immigrants for Democratic votes. Alt-right: ...and poison wells of course. Conservatives: yes, we’re on top of that too!

Microsoft AngloSaxon OP Jan 13, 2019

Wow, I could easily block you.

Credit Karma EllisDee25 Jan 13, 2019

You could, yup. But before you do, are you upset because I’m off the mark or because I hit the target?

OpenTable Meliodas Jan 13, 2019

They want to conserve white evangelical Christian control over society. The ends justify the means for them, because of Calvinism.

Microsoft AngloSaxon OP Jan 13, 2019

Well they failed a long time ago. Circa 1970s.