Considering move to sf from india

Uber GBbs15
Sep 27 89 Comments

My tc in india is ~140k usd, i am getting around ~280k in sf on l1, i believe life will be much better in bay area
I am sick of so many people everywhere in india, pollution and plethora of related things.
I am planning to move with my wife, she is a data scientist with reputed firm here, how difficult is for her to get a job in bar area with EAD?
Also, any general comments on people who have moved, how is life in general.
yoe : 6, eng

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  • Cisco / Eng
    Rang

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    Rangmore
    Don't move, India is definitely better place and will improve over the time.

    Just that problems about being in USA is not spoken out loud as about india.
    Sep 27 8
    • eBay d hi jyds
      I’ll have to disagree with you on that one.

      SF is a dirty city with lots of homeless, but it’s nothing like India.

      If you commute from 20-30 minutes away in the peninsula you’ll get to live in a very clean and safe area.
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      False. Life in bay area far better than blr.Those who say stay in india are ignorant of blr life
      Sep 27
    • Uber tifhui
      Mumbai?
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      I hear mumbai traffic is also a nightmare
      Sep 27
    • Uber sarcool
      Your wife will find it very easy to find a job here. It's never a bad idea to explore.
      Sep 27
  • Roku cruella
    With that tc in India u don’t have to mingle with plebs.

    Create ur own mini city and employ all the minions u need.

    Edit: more I think more I like the idea of starting an empire like “despicable me”!
    Sep 27 3
    • Bloomberg TimeToPlay
      There’s that humor we all know and love. 🤣
      Sep 27
    • Rackspace gITI21
      I was starting to get depressed reading another thread about TCs at 25.

      I read this comment and it I feel better now. Keep up the good work (humour), Roku.
      Sep 27
    • Roku cruella
      U r welcome rackspace.
      Sep 27
  • Facebook aSPL70
    I have $350 and my wife’s tc is $150. With two kids going to private schools we barely meet our ends. And the reason they are going to private schools is because we cannot afford a home in a good school district for public schools.
    Sep 27 9
    • Cisco NnMk28
      Your take home is roughly around 26.5k after taxes and deduction.

      Why couldn’t your family make end meet?
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      500k is too much, to save, even after private schools. You are just making bad decisions
      Sep 27
    • Facebook guckhere
      Don't stay close to office, add some commute time and you can easily afford good home with top school district (not cupertino, Los gatos). Look in south bay and not in cupertino, mountain view for homes. I got my home with ~250K total home income in a good school district 3 yrs back. I know prices have increased since then but still there are plenty of homes with good school district. Also i personally prefer to pay EMI on home and put kids in public school (1 kid already in public, second will join in few years) over private. Reason: you will get better home and better commute given public schools are good. Else your community might not be that great if schools are not good.
      Sep 27
    • sure, you’d be struggling to have ends meet if you are paying for a 2M house you bought at 10% down because you couldn’t afford a 3M house. This is how you end up taking your own life.
      Sep 27
    • Amazon / Eng minion1
      500k and just making the ends meet? You got a spending problem.
      Sep 27
  • Accenture bhav1236
    Are you crazy? With that package in a city like Blore I would have never ever thought about moving out of blore!!!
    Reality check, bay area is no lesser than being in Blore it's hugely crowded, has traffic (slightly lesser than Blore) & extremely competitive(rat race continues even here).
    Sep 27 6
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      Bay area is waaay better than blr. Traffic is lot better. I hv lived in both places. Blr is a hell.
      Sep 27
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      @grx i think u get where i am coming from, if you have moved from google, you can better judge the perspective, as google pays well in india too.
      Sep 27
    • Accenture bgsi1236
      Blore might be difficult depending on which part u live and which part u work. It is similar here too, only the duration might be slightly more or less. But the point is u cannot escape from traffic anywhere
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      Yes. With that pay in India, you should live like q king. Except the traffic and commute kills u. Not to mention daily pollution intake while commuting. There is no life in blr, just somehow reach office, and back home.
      Your savings will be more in US. Not in % of income, but in overall. You dont need to live in SF. Just stay outside, take caltrain.
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      1 hr traffic in bay is sitting in your car, following your slow lane. 1 hr traffic in india is constant honks, over crowded vehicles desperately trying to cut each other, thick smoke from trucks, 10x higher stress.
      When you and wife are working, u buy a home, kids go to school, u just cant control whr u stay. You will compromise on your commute.
      Also, how do you go out on weekends? City is still full on weekend.
      Bay area is pretty chill in non-peak hours
      Sep 27
  • 150k USD in India you must be living like a king there
    Sep 27 0
  • New / Eng replJS
    150kUSD in which city ?
    Sep 27 3
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      Bangalore
      Sep 27
    • Amazon broke&dumb
      For 6yoe? That's awesome
      Sep 27
    • New / Eng replJS
      That’s much better than almost all of the US outside of the bay,nyc, Seattle and big tech... Seems like you’re killing it in India and 280 in the bay isn’t going to go that far comparitively.
      Sep 27
  • Nuage Networks / Eng
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    NoDramamore
    Wow....you are earning 1cr INR. What do you do man to get this kind of salary in India?

    If I earn that kind of money I would never ever think of leaving India.

    Also, you are in top 0.5% in India with that salary. If you move to SF with $280k will be in top 15-20% in Bay Area. This means you are downgraded.

    I would never move.
    Sep 27 4
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      Well to be fair , 40 percent of this is stocks, and still prices of homes are also skyrocketing in india in good areas.
      Sep 27
    • Axtria user571
      Lol OP has no idea about Bay area, or even life in the US. It's a glittery American dream that he has imagined in his head. I would advice you to get out of your bubble, talk to real people, and do some research online, not just in terms of money but also other aspects that govern the quality of life. I am sure you are in for a shocker.
      Sep 27
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      @user571, thanks for your inputs, ill do my research before considering. Appreciate it.
      Sep 27
    • Accenture bhav1236
      American dream use to be a thing back in 90s or early 2000s, not anymore mate. From what I read, you are extremely blessed to be living and earning that much in Blore.
      Sep 27
  • Microsoft dreamtown
    150k in Bangalore? Don't move to SF. At all.

    Anyone who is "doing well in India" will really hate moving to the US on any kind of work visa, for tech work. It's a significant drop in self respect and quality of life.

    I've worked in India and the US. Ping me if you want.
    Sep 27 2
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      Thanks for your inputs, will get in touch.
      Sep 27
    • Google / Eng
      grx

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      grxmore
      I hv worked both places. Big metros in india are unliveable. Bay area is huge step up in quality of life.
      Sep 27
  • Axtria user571
    I would like to trade my life with yours. Pm me if you are interested.
    Sep 27 0
  • Amazon
    I am sure OP made a calculation mistake (added an extra zero) converting his/her salary to USD.
    Sep 27 7
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      What i meant was , its getting quite common, especially with startup culture kicking in Bangalore.
      Sep 27
    • Accenture bhav1236
      Not really .even with start up culture, people are not minting money to this figure .
      Sep 27
    • Goldman Sachs / Data yawn!
      People who are in Tier 1 companies are
      Sep 27
    • LinkedIn / Mgmt Chodhu
      Join LinkedIn as staff and enjoy these salary figures but of course including RSU's
      Sep 27
    • Amazon
      Congratulations on your success, you shouldn't even be thinking about moving to bay area for anything less than $750k of TC.
      Sep 27
  • Oracle shii
    Is this really 140k USD?? It’s unbelievable. Stay there mate and live like a king. Here in SF, below 500k are beggars
    Sep 27 0
  • Zynga parott
    Lol with 150k USD in India why don’t you just retire in ten years ?(100k savings per year * 10= 1 million)

    Ok maybe you can’t save 100k a year but you can save 75-80k
    Sep 27 0
  • TomTom International / Creative
    kRb

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    kRbmore
    Are you insane? You can live like a king with that tc in India
    Sep 27 0
  • Verisk Analytics pinkfloyd🎸
    That’s like 98 lakh INR. What do you do OP? What’s your job profile? I’ve not heard of that TC in Tech(India)
    Sep 27 1
    • New MrMyme
      Seems like you are outdated
      Oct 3
  • Microsoft iuYF20
    From what I have observed from my friends and family, people who move to US like it more if they had less standard of living in India like less than 10L. I haven't seen any of my friends/seniors happy who moved and were earning 25L+ as a newgrads here. Your standard of living takes a hit i guess. There are certain things here like pollution, traffic but with 1cr TC in India you can essentially live in a walled garden.

    Don't like traffic/driving - you can get a full time driver with less than 20k INR
    per month. Try doing that in bay area.

    Also you should consider this thing- You are top of the foodchain of 6yoe in India with 1CR TC.
    In US- you are just any avg 6 yoe SWE along the likes of TCS/Wipro etc.
    As someone mentioned there will always be difference in Standard of living of
    top 0.5% and 20%.
    Sep 27 0
  • Box Eajs72
    I was in similar situation 10 years ago. Had moved to India on US salary after living here for 8 years. I moved back to NYC area. However, surviving in Bay area at 280 will be hard. 250 or higher would be good anywhere else.
    Another thing to keep in mind is L1. If this is type of L1 that gets you in EB1 then that is a huge incentive else it would be a tough move with little to gain.
    Sep 27 2
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      So you are saying, nyc is better as compared to bay area?
      I can apply for h1b too after the move.
      Sep 27
    • Box Eajs72
      Well opportunity wise Bay is the best. You will get job offers on a weekly basis and will be able to get TC much higher in an year or two. However, house prices, crowd and living conditions are not great. As others have said with 280 you will not be in top20% in Bay. In NYC you can have a great house in NJ (if you have kids) or a good apartment/condo in the city (if interested in City Life or no kids).
      Do NOT think about h1 as you will be stuck in green card queue for many many years. If you want to be in US and your L1 is if type that will allow you to get green card through EB1 then yes, slog for an year or two at 280 to get GC and then move. If you come here and switch to h1, just to get TC of say 350 then you are doomed. If your L1 is of type that does not transfer over to EB1 then I won't move.
      Sep 27
  • Google FGtp85
    I know mine is counter opinion but I would still suggest to keep an open mind and find out details before deciding. If no kids you can just come for couple years just for experience. You don't have to settle so fast. See the work culture and life here first hand and see what works for you.
    280k is pretty decent for a decent life in Bay area. There are problems everywhere but some problems may bother you more in India or Bay depending on what you prefer
    Sep 27 1
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      Thanks for your reply, appreciate a different outlook. We are not planning to have kids in next 4-6 yrs , so that seems like plausible idea.
      Sep 27
  • Intel JNns17
    WTF dude 6 years 150k in Bangalore.., Why do you even think about coming to bay/US . Not at all worth it. Only thing you probably need to consider is how long can you keep that TC in Bangalore, and then what next?
    Sep 27 0
  • Google fangu
    L1 gives you very little flexibility in your job. You can't just switch anytime you want, and companies don't like to play the h1b lottery game.
    Sep 27 0
  • Adobe bwSw06
    I think you should give yourself a chance to experience life in Bay Area, there is always an option togo back if you do not like it. What is your family income in India? Your wife can easily get a 150-200K job if she has right skills and experience. In south bay, decent 1 BHK will cost you between 2800-3000 USD per month and if you do not have kids, your monthly expenses will not go beyond 5K USD. SF is expensive to live, you can choose to not stay in SF and use BART/Caltrain for commute or stay closer to SF (as per personal preference - commute time vs money).
    Sep 27 6
    • Nuage Networks / Eng
      NoDrama

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      NoDramamore
      Please don’t listen to Adobe
      Sep 27
    • Adobe bwSw06
      I guess he is doing an internal transfer from India to US and reverse transfer will not be a problem for him. With reverse transfer he will get to retain his stock refreshers that he will get while working in US for Uber. I agree, he will not be able to switch job while on L1 but L1 EAD gives her wife an opportunity to work in US. It is easy to get a job worth 1 crore in India, I know my friends with 6-7 yrs of experience getting this salary in India in companies like Linkedin. I disagree to the fact that getting a job on US visa is much harder - in fact it is much easier to get a job in US as compared to India. Having worked/interviewed both in US and India, I can say this with conviction. I am someone who got my first job in US on EAD and had multiple offers within couple of months of my arrival in US with TC 250K+. If this person can fetch 140K in India with 6 yrs of experience, he can do a lot better here.
      Sep 27
    • Oracle z3p0
      Luck lasts so long. It's a noob gambler's mistake to think they caused the dice to land the numbers. By the time OP goes back and forth, he'd have 10yoe, with only Uber on the resume.
      Sep 27
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      @adobe thanks for your inputs here, appreciate a different perspective and detailed info, i am thinking in a similar fashion. 130-150k is not too big a number when 40 percent is stocks in tier 1 companies in India.
      How was ur personal experience living in bay area vs india? How good is the trade off , for better life and smaller house etc.
      Also, i am.not planning to start a family there , so i believe experience will not be that bad. And yes as you rightly pointed out. I can always come back.
      Sep 28
    • Uber GBbs15
      OP
      @oracle what is life without some risk, i started my career with less than 20k usd salary , been taking many risks along the road.
      Sep 28

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