Evaluate Apple ICT4 offer for SW role

Autodesk kHDC66
Oct 29, 2018 44 Comments

Base = 180K
RSU = 160K over 4 years
SignOn = 80K
Bonus = 10% (Based on peformance)
Refreshers (Based on performance)

YOE = 8 Years (6 Years in US + Masters + 2 Years in India)

I think Apple gives generous refreshers, what you guys think of this offer?

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TOP 44 Comments
  • Apple constella
    Can do better. Ask for 220 base and 500 rsu. If you don’t have have competing offers there’s very little chance they will pay that, though. Also, bonuses can be 20% sometimes.
    Oct 29, 2018 10
    • Apple constella
      It’s very rare for a job offer to be withdrawn because you asked for a lot. They usually tell you what their “last” offer is, and you can always take it. Or leave it.

      On the other hand, if you get what you ask for right away, it might leave you wondering if you should’ve asked for more; wondering if you got shortchanged.

      Hiring isn’t easy these days. By the time an offer is made, they have invested enough time in you and other candidates that they don’t want to lose a good one like you. The recruiter might laugh at you, but that’s part of their script, they are deft negotiators. You need learn that game too, not just reversing linked lists and consistent hashing.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple / Eng
      Kolmogrov

      Apple Eng

      BIO
      2 b or ! 2b
      Kolmogrovmore
      Yes - but getting laughed and having no clue isn’t leverage. I could go in every negotiation asking for a billion bucks - Nobody going to take me seriously, and I won’t get high end . Good negotiation is having leverage and a sane idea of what the other guy also gets at end of the deal - going with your approach doesn’t do any of that.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple constella
      Asking for a billion would be a bit much. I’m certain that is beyond ICT5 even.

      OP, don’t ask for a billion. That was just hyperbole. Or a strawman argument.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Qualcomm whTC47
      I rejected Apple when they offered me 230 K Base and 650 K RSUs. OP please ask 750 K minimum
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple NoName!!
      Ha ha , pls don’t ask for 500k , it will be bad for you . 200-220k is probably the highest for initial stock grant , for ic4. It’s a good offer . Base and stock could be a little higher 10k or so but the refreshers will make up for it .
      Oct 31, 2018
  • Apple zigzags
    Ignore the trolls here, this is a high end offer for ICT4 -- so you more or less have to take it or leave it
    Oct 29, 2018 4
    • Qualcomm whTC47
      Not a troll believe Blind pleases Apple can offer up to 900 K for ICT3-4
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple zigzags
      Oh..why not $10M
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Autodesk kHDC66
      OP
      No wonder you’re still at Qualcomm
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Qualcomm whTC47
      Not anymore auto deal Goooogle
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Autodesk kHDC66
    OP
    Updates

    I accepted the above offer eventually, I think I could have increased my base a little but I'm happy with the team, HM and overall TC.

    Greed is never-ending, happiness is what you seek!
    Oct 30, 2018 3
    • Aurora bystander!
      Congrats! 🎈🎊🎉
      Team?
      Oct 30, 2018
    • Autodesk kHDC66
      OP
      Under Eddy's, services org.
      Oct 30, 2018
    • Aurora bystander!
      Awesome. Good job. Wish you the very best.
      Oct 30, 2018
  • Comcast kSoT38
    I was recently negotiating with Apple for ICT4, and was at 195/450 with a 15% bonus before I decided to accept a different offer.
    Oct 29, 2018 10
    • Apple Watch
      Siri is different, you can get north of 200/800 in Siri org at ict4 level. I surely know one case who had a ML background but I don’t think it’s normal for other org.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      190/450 is doable in Eddy’s.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Apple / Product yzzQ07
      troll post — ignore pls
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Comcast kSoT38
      Which are you saying is a troll post? Certainly not mine.
      Oct 30, 2018
    • Apple Watch
      Yup, this is not in the troll range. However, Apple compensations for the same level vary a lot across teams - and folks from other teams might feel hard to digest some of the recent offers specially from JG’s org.
      Oct 30, 2018
  • Apple zigzags
    Welcome to Apple
    Oct 30, 2018 1
    • Autodesk kHDC66
      OP
      Thanks
      Oct 30, 2018
  • H1 xfer ho gaya?
    Oct 30, 2018 0
  • Any competing offer might help.
    Oct 29, 2018 0
  • Broadcom Ltd. / Other Mrconfused
    Which org/team? RSU seems low
    Oct 29, 2018 2
    • Autodesk kHDC66
      OP
      The recruiter said it's standard for ICT4 and won't budge on that as refreshers are usually very generous.
      Oct 29, 2018
    • Broadcom Ltd. / Other Qazxswed
      How much unvested RSUs are you leaving behind at Autodesk? Ask for twice that
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Aurora bystander!
    Take it if you like the team/work. That’s all that will matter .. for a long time. BTW, which team / org?
    Oct 29, 2018 1
    • Apple / Eng vxwh42
      loser!!
      Nov 10, 2018
  • Microsoft blind1186
    Bay area?
    Oct 29, 2018 1
    • Autodesk kHDC66
      OP
      Yes
      Oct 29, 2018
  • Apple AppleGuru
    Great offer for 8 YOE
    Nov 1, 2018 0
  • Oracle Noname9
    Could you let me know how were the interview rounds ?
    Oct 29, 2018 0