For those who want a Tl;dr (summary): Isnt FANG preference based on being an employee for the rest of you life??? And therefore assumes you want to spend your life constantly working for someone else and climbin by ladders?? I asked a similar question a little earlier but, I want to drill down further on the reasonings behind why people prefer FANG as opposed to the companies that I mentioned and otherwise. I would like to mention that I am the pointy beginning tip of my career and eventually plan to begin a start up while working at a Microsoft or Cisco. I plan to eventually ONLY be working at my start up. Thankfully, I've managed to work (intern) at all types of businesses. Low-Tech (Northrop Grumman), High-Tech ( Microsoft), A start up , and I'm doing my last intership now (Cisco) (somewhere between low and high tech?) .... Why do people generally prefer fang over ICE? Shouldnt I want to choose a company in the ICE category if I lm looking to have enough time to create my own company???? If I want to have enough time to create my own company, shouldnt I avoid FANG?
"Cisco is the shittiest" please explain why.
If I need to explain you that then you are living in black hole. Come out of it and see how many opportunities are out there to learn. To start with no one cares about work. No deadlines, no innovation, no hiring of talented folks..managers themselves say that we don't hire bright because we do mediocre stuff. On top of that cisco pays peanuts as compared to rest of bay area companies. You grow and learn by working on interesting problems and with smart colleagues. And cisco has none of them. Do you want more reasons?
You seem to be very defensive when asked sincere questions. I hear people throw around how FANG is the best but usually they're only talking about Pay. Also, as for pay, when you adjust for the cost of living, FANG isnt necessarily all that great. Many of my Microsoft engineering peers struggled to buy a home And the homes they did finally buy were kinda shitty.
Starting a start-up is one thing, and probably the easiest. Funding, finding product market fit, keeping it alive and growing is a completely different story. You won't learnt it at fang or ice unless your start-up is in the same category or they are you clients.
This begs the question then, how can one reasonably expect to compete with FANG as a startup. Doesnt this depend on the goal of your startup? Also, I work in Customer Experience so wouldnt it make more sense to stay??? I'm asking not becaue I want to be stubborn but I'm asking sincerely.
First time I’ve heard ICE. I’m not sure it’s that simple. FAANG as well as Microsoft and any large company are going to want you to be a continuous learner, because they want a long term investment. They may not necessarily be about you working non-stop and never having any free time to develop your side hustle. The exception is of course that you cannot have another job, usually, as it competes for your time and it’s a conflict of interest. But developing your business plan on the side until it’s viable for funding, is your own private business. I’ve known people at IBM that are overworked and stressed because they are constantly hounded by their boss. So I’m not sure where you get the idea that it’s going to offer you a ton of WLB.
This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen on blind. Take a look at how many current successful founders are ex-FAANG vs ex-“ICE”. ‘Nuff said.
Obligatory Tim cook was ex IBM, but ya op Ibm sucks sure I may have alot of free time, but I'm not learning anything here (at least not currently)
Yeah because he worked at IBM before it was shit
To start a startup you need to learn. And cisco is the shittiest place to learn as software engineers. And please don't compare microsoft and Cisco. Microsoft is doing many interesting stuff and overall doing very well. There are some bad orgs to work for at Microsoft but nothing like cisco.