Facebook E5 to Google L6?

Facebook pMpw73
Mar 4 12 Comments

I think I was underleveled when joining FB at E5 with 15 yoe less than a year ago. I'm not loving the culture and engineering practices here and thinking of making a run at Google. I'm expecting the recruiter to ask me my current level and setup my interviews as such. I don't think lying about my level is a good idea, and I'm not sure I want to put in the time and effort to get to E6 here before moving.

Has anybody leveled up to L6 going from Facebook to Google? Is it pretty much impossible? I hear that getting promoted at Google is very hard, so I would rather not go in underleveled from the start.

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  • eBay fgsa2d
    Sorry dont have answer for you. But what do you not like abou FB culture?
    Mar 4 5
    • Yahoo / Eng
      alu

      Yahoo Eng

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      Yahoo
      alumore
      eBay, search on blind. This is one of many post where an engineer wants to leave fb. Mainly the engineering culture and WLB.
      Mar 4
    • Facebook pMpw73
      OP
      The fact that the performance review cycle motivates the vast majority of decisions and is so engrained in the culture is my biggest gripe. I have no personal connection to the products and the engineering processes can leave a lot to be desired. Surely these things vary a lot team to team and org to org, but I'm not digging the general vibe here.
      Mar 4
    • Google PPKe80
      Interesting. That's been my biggest gripe about Google as wel
      Mar 4
    • Facebook pMpw73
      OP
      Which part?
      Mar 4
    • OnDeck GPgj02
      There is no perfect job/company. Only rich companies and poor companies.
      Mar 4
  • Google kerneltrik
    Ask to the recruiter to setup an L6 loop based on your years/quality-of experience. If you don’t want to lie, you must withhold you’re an E5 because once the recruiter learns that you won’t have a chance at becoming L6.
    Mar 4 2
    • Facebook pMpw73
      OP
      It's not so much that I don't want to lie, but I'm worried about getting blacklisted if they somehow check via back channels.
      Mar 4
    • Google kerneltrik
      Well in that case just refuse to discuss your current level. Insist on the L6 loop.
      Mar 4
  • Facebook Hodinkee
    Refuse to disclose your current level and compensation. Ask to setup l6 interview loop. Profit.
    I know people who done this, you’ll be fine. Perform well during interviews.
    Mar 4 2
    • Google kerneltrik
      How hard is an E6 loop compared to an E5 btw. Is the expectation on the system design alone higher?
      Mar 4
    • Google / Eng
      relus

      Google Eng

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      relusmore
      System design and behavioral/leadership. E6 are TL for large projects if not managers.
      Mar 4

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