Facebook Rotational Engineer vs Google T3

New RRDs58
Jul 12, 2018 21 Comments

I have an offer from Facebook as a Rotational Engineer (145/0/60) and an offer from Google as a T3 (130/250/25).

Fb is 0 equity for first 12 months, then if I graduate I get an offer as an E4. (If I don't "graduate" then no offer.) More info here: https://www.facebook.com/careers/life/facebooks-rotational-engineering-program

What should I take? I haven't heard too much about the rotational position.

SF 3 yoe 160TC

Update: FB recruiter said the conversion to FT was 90%, but since the rotational program has grown, it’s decreased to 83%. Basically a 5/6 odds I get an offer.

I’m thinking that, assuming I get an offer, 50k isn’t a huge deal since fb offers are usually stronger than G offers...right?

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TOP 21 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng Shfjdnabc
    Uh google duh??
    Jul 12, 2018 0
  • Facebook XLhI02
    Not sure why everyone is saying that going to Google is the obvious choice. At Google, your TC for the first year would be $218K, and FB would be $205K.

    Not a huge difference, and then you'd come out as E4 with a much higher TC at FB for your second year.

    Worst case: if you feel FB isn't working out, you can always go back to Google at that point.
    Jul 13, 2018 3
    • New RRDs58
      OP
      That’s what’s making this hard for me. My goal was to work at FB, but this is a “kind of” offer. The recruiter said there was a 90% conversion to ft, but since the program has scaled, it’s decreased to 83%. So 5/6 shot that I get an offer in a year.

      Also I think $50k is negligible if I get an offer at fb.
      Jul 13, 2018
    • Facebook XLhI02
      What $50K are you referring to? The TC difference seems to only be $13K for the first year.

      I'd agree with another commenter, who pointed out that if you got both these offers, you're clearly capable and very likely to convert to FT.

      That said, given that it's a close call, I'd encourage you to spend some time thinking about where you'd rather be in a couple years if the comp was not a factor.

      Look into what's different about FB culture and Google. Talk to folks who've been there for a few years about what they like, but especially about what they think the worst things about their org are. Figure out which you'd prefer.

      If you've already done that and, like you mentioned, your goal was to end up at FB, then just go for it.
      Jul 13, 2018
    • Facebook XLhI02
      Not to mention... It kind of doesn't matter. You're at the beginning of your career and whatever happens over the next year is going to be just a tiny fraction, both in terms of experience and compensation. So just pick whichever you'd like and you'll be totally fine either way.
      Jul 13, 2018
  • Facebook Kisamaaa
    This shouldn’t even be a question. Google hands down.
    Jul 13, 2018 0
  • Facebook yh5gjy6
    Google
    Jul 13, 2018 0
  • Grindr ssvX11
    3yoe, 160TC, and having an offer from Google tells me you're already pretty capable. Seems to me this program should be a piece of cake for you? You'll get hired at a higher level in a breeze of a year since you're already experienced.
    Jul 12, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    fb2017

    Facebook Eng

    PRE
    Google, Oracle
    BIO
    worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
    fb2017more
    I didn't know about the rotational engineer program until I joined fb. Does it have special interview process or recruiting schedule?
    Jul 13, 2018 4
    • Amazon / Eng Shfjdnabc
      Yeah, and it is easier than normal swe?
      Jul 13, 2018
    • New RRDs58
      OP
      Not sure they contacted me after I was rejected. I didn’t crush the SDI
      Jul 13, 2018
    • Clearstream.TV restandves
      Op what role were you rejected for? Facebook offered u rotational after you got rejected? How did you perform on your interview?
      Jul 14, 2018
    • New RRDs58
      OP
      Front-end eng, e4. I didn’t crush the SDI, but the feedback from the other rounds was good.
      Jul 15, 2018
  • Google UBdG56
    Does FB know you have G offer? The E4 is nice, but they’re not giving you any equity..... if their sign on is high enough (75-100k) I would actually say take fb since you hopefully will make E4 within a year (or transfer somewhere to E4 equivalent).
    Jul 13, 2018 2
    • New RRDs58
      OP
      Yes they know, there’s no negotiation for the rotational program
      Jul 13, 2018
    • Google UBdG56
      That’s annoying lol. If google gave you L4 this would be very easy decision. L3 screwed it up lol
      Jul 13, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng BobLobLawl
    The e3 equity is higher than what you'll get at fb on E4 offer. (You can't negotiate)

    E4 offer after reng is 150/220
    Jul 13, 2018 1
    • Google UBdG56
      This ^, I was gonna mention, people converting from residency don’t have leverage and will be bottom of band.
      Jul 13, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Zuckit
    Hands down google. Take google, and you can leave for fb in a couple years to stint as e4/e5 and bounce back to google
    Jul 14, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng elijojo
    You are comparing a contractor to hire position to a full time position... Google pls.
    Jul 13, 2018 0
  • Indeed / Eng LanaDunz
    Facebook does not want you. Rotational engineer is the stupidest shit ever and no one should accept it if they have any other decent offers.
    Jul 13, 2018 0