Tech IndustryJul 12, 2018
NewRRDs58

Facebook Rotational Engineer vs Google T3

I have an offer from Facebook as a Rotational Engineer (145/0/60) and an offer from Google as a T3 (130/250/25). Fb is 0 equity for first 12 months, then if I graduate I get an offer as an E4. (If I don't "graduate" then no offer.) More info here: https://www.facebook.com/careers/life/facebooks-rotational-engineering-program What should I take? I haven't heard too much about the rotational position. SF 3 yoe 160TC Update: FB recruiter said the conversion to FT was 90%, but since the rotational program has grown, it’s decreased to 83%. Basically a 5/6 odds I get an offer. I’m thinking that, assuming I get an offer, 50k isn’t a huge deal since fb offers are usually stronger than G offers...right?

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Amazon Shfjdnabc Jul 12, 2018

Uh google duh??

Grindr ssvX11 Jul 12, 2018

3yoe, 160TC, and having an offer from Google tells me you're already pretty capable. Seems to me this program should be a piece of cake for you? You'll get hired at a higher level in a breeze of a year since you're already experienced.

Facebook yh5gjy6 Jul 13, 2018

Google

Facebook Kisamaaa Jul 13, 2018

This shouldn’t even be a question. Google hands down.

Google UBdG56 Jul 13, 2018

Does FB know you have G offer? The E4 is nice, but they’re not giving you any equity..... if their sign on is high enough (75-100k) I would actually say take fb since you hopefully will make E4 within a year (or transfer somewhere to E4 equivalent).

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RRDs58 OP Jul 13, 2018

Yes they know, there’s no negotiation for the rotational program

Google UBdG56 Jul 13, 2018

That’s annoying lol. If google gave you L4 this would be very easy decision. L3 screwed it up lol

Indeed LanaDunz Jul 13, 2018

Facebook does not want you. Rotational engineer is the stupidest shit ever and no one should accept it if they have any other decent offers.

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 13, 2018

Not sure why everyone is saying that going to Google is the obvious choice. At Google, your TC for the first year would be $218K, and FB would be $205K. Not a huge difference, and then you'd come out as E4 with a much higher TC at FB for your second year. Worst case: if you feel FB isn't working out, you can always go back to Google at that point.

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RRDs58 OP Jul 13, 2018

That’s what’s making this hard for me. My goal was to work at FB, but this is a “kind of” offer. The recruiter said there was a 90% conversion to ft, but since the program has scaled, it’s decreased to 83%. So 5/6 shot that I get an offer in a year. Also I think $50k is negligible if I get an offer at fb.

Facebook XLhI02 Jul 13, 2018

What $50K are you referring to? The TC difference seems to only be $13K for the first year. I'd agree with another commenter, who pointed out that if you got both these offers, you're clearly capable and very likely to convert to FT. That said, given that it's a close call, I'd encourage you to spend some time thinking about where you'd rather be in a couple years if the comp was not a factor. Look into what's different about FB culture and Google. Talk to folks who've been there for a few years about what they like, but especially about what they think the worst things about their org are. Figure out which you'd prefer. If you've already done that and, like you mentioned, your goal was to end up at FB, then just go for it.

Facebook BobLobLawl Jul 13, 2018

The e3 equity is higher than what you'll get at fb on E4 offer. (You can't negotiate) E4 offer after reng is 150/220

Google UBdG56 Jul 13, 2018

This ^, I was gonna mention, people converting from residency don’t have leverage and will be bottom of band.

Facebook elijojo Jul 13, 2018

You are comparing a contractor to hire position to a full time position... Google pls.

Facebook fb2017 Jul 13, 2018

I didn't know about the rotational engineer program until I joined fb. Does it have special interview process or recruiting schedule?

Amazon Shfjdnabc Jul 13, 2018

Yeah, and it is easier than normal swe?

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RRDs58 OP Jul 13, 2018

Not sure they contacted me after I was rejected. I didn’t crush the SDI