Fb e5 moving to amazon

Facebook YMVM33
Mar 31 42 Comments

Yoe: 4
Tc: 410k

I am e5 at fb with relatively high tc compared with people at same level (due to DE). I have been thinking about moving companies at some point in the future.

One thing I was wondering about is the equivalent level for e5 at Amazon and what I would be interviewed at. Most people I see who interview from amazon as sde2 have a target level of e5. However, I also see a lot of statements on blind that e5 at fb is comparable to sde3 at Amazon (also reflected in levels.fyi).

In terms of tc, e5 at fb seems closer to sde3 than sde2.

With a relatively low yoe, would amazon likely interview me as sde2?

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    • Amazon / Eng lockkey
      I'd recommend trying to join at L7 if you can make that jump. (Would require more exp.) L7 are treated very well. Also Amazon's comp policy makes comp increases with promo take 1-2 years to kick in, so better to come in at a high level you're likely to stay at for a while.
      Mar 31
    • Amazon brig
      Lol join at l7 with 4 yoe... Good luck with that.
      Mar 31
    • Amazon / Eng lockkey
      That's why I said more exp needed?..
      Mar 31
    • Tutanota randodata
      OP your overpaid just accept and life will be easier
      Mar 31
    • Apple / Retail
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      UCSFmore
      Op, just donโ€™t join amazon no matter what. You are a top performer at fb, but on resume people may think you get piped out of fb.
      Mar 31
  • VMware by ugh
    E5 with 4YoE...
    That's awesome..
    Stay put..
    Don't go to AWS
    Mar 31 2
    • Facebook YMVM33
      OP
      It is very common to make e5 within 4 years. Fb has a time limit of 5 years to go from 3 to 5.
      Mar 31
    • Facebook wootness
      Which frankly often dilutes the E5. Itโ€™s a wide band and making impact on a given team for E5 scope does not always translate into industry equivalence. I doubt one would clear the interview bar for SDE3 with such low yoe. If they do, that must be quite special talent.
      Mar 31
  • Facebook / Other
    backtoswe

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    backtoswemore
    This might be controversial, but from my limited exp at both, I think Amazon SDE 3 feels a bit more senior level than FB e5. In my opinion SDE 2 has the widest range at Amazon while same goes for e5 at FB., so top sde2s definitely should target e5 and e5s dont assume that they will get sde3 although most of the time u will get it.
    Mar 31 12
    • Quora vhQW50
      Thanks for the thought
      Mar 31
    • Amazon peacefull
      Why would principals at G or FB solve more challenging problems than at Amzn? For cloud they solve the same type of problems. For ads/search maybe indeed it is different, but not much.
      Mar 31
    • Cisco / Product U there
      ๐Ÿ‘
      Mar 31
    • Google ovBk62
      @peacefull - are you talking about Google/Facebook principals vs Amazon principals or Google/Facebook L6/7 vs Amazon principals?

      It is common for outsiders to think that Google cloud project = Google infra but that's not remotely the case. The core infra that runs YouTube, search, etc is a different scale altogether. GCP is just an attempt to make a subset of these services publicly available.

      Google L6s and 7s influence way fewer people than Amazon principals do, but they generally end up working on technically harder problems. Remember that a problem can be technically hard or organizationally hard. It's a spectrum. It's about going deep (G) vs handling breadth (A). There are exceptions but this is the norm I've noticed in these two companies.
      Apr 1
    • Amazon peacefull
      ovBk62@, I was referring to your earlier comment about G/FB E6/L6 working on harder problems. I was under impression that Amazon principals are also working on hard problems, not just how to deliver a project as an org. I agree it may not be the case for all principals, but I guess this is not always the case for E6/L6 at G/FB either. Thanks for clarifications!
      Apr 1
  • What is DE?
    Mar 31 1
    • Facebook YMVM33
      OP
      Discretionary equity. It is an additional stock grant that is given to a small set of employees on top of the standard refresher.
      Mar 31
  • Amazon Northman
    Comp would be in band for SDE3 in Bay Area. In fact you could even go a bit higher at SDE3. YOE is too low for Principal SDE so that's not on the table.
    Mar 31 0
  • Postmates setamtsoP
    Don't move to Amazon at least
    Mar 31 0
  • Facebook / Eng baxteer
    4 YOE and 400k? Superhuman? troll?
    Apr 1 3
    • Facebook YMVM33
      OP
      Not uncommon for e5 with de. Also had good refreshers throughout.
      Apr 1
    • Facebook / Eng baxteer
      Very uncommon at 4 YOE
      Apr 1
    • Salesforce MrBigg
      That is what he wants us to know. He is superhuman...lol
      Apr 1
  • Microsoft femme
    DE?
    Apr 1 1
  • Uber Joined
    Is it still 410k?
    Apr 1 1
  • Amazon Px8227
    A good team player E5 could map to SDE3. But SDE3 is more of E6. Tech bar is different
    Mar 31 1
    • Facebook / Eng baxteer
      Most sde3 joins as E5 here. I think only 1-2 or SDEs got in as E6 over 20+ amazonians that I interviewed.

      E5 requires more technical depth than sde3. But FB internally promoted E5 is inflated compared to external E5 hires.
      Apr 1
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    Don't move
    Apr 2 0
  • Amazon / Eng DeepObsess
    Stay put. If bored find a hobby. Use their gym for example.
    Mar 31 0
  • Microsoft femme
    You won't get close to that comp at Amazon.
    Mar 31 0
  • Microsoft ImAwesome
    Designated engineer
    Mar 31 0