Getting job in Google/Facebook without interview

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Sep 15, 2017 60 Comments

I was wondering are there cases when someone gets a engineering job in big company as google/FB/apple without those long interviews (solving algorithm problems onsite for 5-6 hours) and going thru hiring committees. Something like getting job thru referrals or coming from also big (or competitor company)

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  • Microsoft Best
    I've also heard it when someone is some big domain expert who is targetted for their specific skills.
    Sep 15, 2017 20
    • Microsoft yMcg47
      What does "haven't touched" mean? I haven't written any sorting code since college, but it doesn't mean I don't need to understand it. I have had to diagnose (bad) algorithms all the time where fundamental ideas in sorting are used.

      Looking it up is fine for things that are longer and more difficult. Inverting a bt is too simple for that. Also even looking it up requires an understanding of the ideas. I bet if he described the idea right and wrote a bug in the code, the interviewer would let it pass.

      I have seen codebases where people look up without understanding.... yea, i bet you have, too
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Oracle / Eng jordi
      So you likely can't write a sort in an interview. But you're saying you can do your job.
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Microsoft yMcg47
      I likely can write sort if asked. If you understand the ideas, it should be easy to reason it out. That is the point... this person probably can't reason out inverting a bt. It is this reasoning that they want. I bet that he can write small bugs here and there and they don't care as long as he talks them through the reasoning.

      By the way, nowadays you can get a lot done with copy and paste and trial and error. This is high risk
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Square hfhfje84
      Copy and paste is a high risk only if you working in isolation.
      Sep 18, 2017
    • Microsoft yMcg47
      Oh yes i know those guys. Copy and paste, claim you added the feature, and expect everyone else in the team to clean it up for you.
      Yes if you want to hire those programmers, don't do technical interview questions.
      Sep 18, 2017
  • Square anon1848
    It happens. My dad did some crazy stuff in the late 90s and is well known in his field + MIT/CMU phd. Every job he's had since then hasn't required a formal interview loop because it would be insulting and a waste of time. He's an engineering director at G currently. Me on the other hand...
    Sep 15, 2017 0
  • Aquihire
    Sep 15, 2017 3
    • Google / Eng ungoogley
      They still interview... It's just heavily coached
      Sep 16, 2017
    • Oracle / Eng jordi
      How does coaching work? Do leetcode problems with you?
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Google / Eng ungoogley
      Mock interviews essentially.
      Sep 18, 2017
  • Workday / Eng
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    blindstermore
    Why does this thought ever cross your mind? If they didn't set the high interview bar, then they wouldn't be who they are now.
    Sep 15, 2017 6
    • Mirantis
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      Because it would be stupid to ask Leslie Lamport to implement overlapping circle detection algorithms. When people are renowned experts in their field they aren't going to put up with that shit.
      Sep 16, 2017
    • Amazon Jeff Bezоs
      Leslie Lamport would probably happily indulge them and would also have some fun with them. He'd probably solve it in n-dimensional space and add some cool twist to blow the interviewing kid's mind. People like Leslie didn't become experts by being scared of solving problems.
      Sep 16, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng dhjhfdfjbs
      Except for that the interview kid would give a no hire because s/he couldn't understand what Leslie was talking about. (A real interview feedback case I saw)
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Mirantis
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      It's not 'solving problems'. Leetcodes are about as interesting to distributed systems people as digging ditches with spoons.
      Sep 18, 2017
    • Mirantis
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      It's incredible how many presumably 'smart' people think that these algo questions are indivicative of anything relevant to software engineering. It's not surprising that Google hasn't done anything interesting with all of the hiring. They hired competition coders who can't scope beyond a function.
      Sep 18, 2017
  • Google PqWV30
    I've only heard of it happening when one works for a company that is acquired by one of the big companies. All referrals that I know of went thru the standard process
    Sep 15, 2017 0
  • Google arbiterus0
    Complete two internships at Google with good feedback and off you go.
    Sep 15, 2017 12
    • Google lLqm67
      Might be relatively new. I have a friend who's recruiter straight up told him he didn't have to do conversion interviews due to a pilot program
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Google lLqm67
      Side-q: what was the conversion rate for you and your two-peat intern friends?
      Sep 17, 2017
    • Google QNrQ72
      I’m a 2x intern with fantastic reviews, and I was put on the pilot program by my manager and I did not have to interview again - I just received the full time offer. This occurred in 2016.
      Oct 3, 2017
    • Google lLqm67
      When did they notify you that you didn't have to interview? Midpoint? Or near the end
      Oct 4, 2017
    • Google QNrQ72
      Near the end. Maybe a month or a couple weeks before finishing the internship
      Oct 4, 2017
  • Google Nngf85
    Nope, staff from acquisitions are all interviewed too.
    Sep 15, 2017 2
    • How does that work? is it like a standard full day of interviews? Is it more strict? lenient?
      Sep 15, 2017
    • New / Eng rabidrob
      Typically a certain percentage of your engineers have to pass the interview for your acquisition to go through.
      Sep 15, 2017
  • Facebook Blind4Lyfe
    Not at FB, but they may stack the loop or reinterview a lot until you pass.
    Sep 15, 2017 2
    • Microsoft / Eng Akdhidk
      What is stack the loop?
      Sep 15, 2017
    • Mirantis
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      Arrange for the interviews to be easy
      Sep 16, 2017
  • Get in as a contractor which has easy interviews. Then the conversion to full time interviews are not full day - just a couple of coding questions. (Via a friend who took that route)
    Sep 16, 2017 3
    • Google / Eng EfJp37
      This is no longer the case. Vendors and Contractors will now have to go through interviews as external candidates. Temps can still go through the "light" process, though. Perhaps your friend was a Temp?
      Sep 16, 2017
    • Google / Eng ungoogley
      Yup this changed about ~3 months ago
      Sep 18, 2017
  • Google Uvor31
    Only if you already have an industry rep as a giant of some sort. Eg, you created Java.
    Oct 2, 2017 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng Ls19s2
    Heard an answer, which sounds reasonable to me: SVP+ referral with request to skip interview.

    I'd imagine you could count how many times this has happened on one hand.
    Sep 16, 2017 0
  • Facebook fzd
    Very unlikely
    Sep 15, 2017 0