CompensationNov 15, 2019
Noodle.ainRoS42

Google L4 Offer

I received an L4 offer at Google Cloud Sunnyvale location. Base $150k Target Bonus 15% Stocks: 190k over 4 years No sign on Bonus TC = $220k Background: Phd in CS from Top 15 University in U.S with focus on Machine Learning. 7 years experience Current TC: $250k I've done 500+ Leetcode questions. For each coding rounds, I explained the algo, coded the solutions, and answered all follow-ups with 10 minutes left each round. We ended up spending time chatting just so to spend the last 10 minutes. Algos used were BFS+Hash / 2 DPs / Dijkstra. After I finished all the rounds, I was bewildered about how easy the interview was. After I finished the interview, my package passed the hiring committee the following week. Everything went smoothly including team matching until I heard from the recruiter talking about how competitive and attractive that $220k offer is even after I told her that I have strong competing offers from another company in the same Sunnyvale region. The recruiter is not even willing to negotiate with me. So I rejected this offer. Where have I done wrong? What should I have done to not get lowballed like this? Please help shed some lights, Blind community. Thank you.

Google GoLinks Nov 15, 2019

Damn that sucks. So it's done now or the recruiter reached back to you after you rejected it? How much better was your other offer? Honestly as great as Google is, no point taking such a deep cut in your actual value. Accept something else and try for L5 in the future maybe?

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

The other offer was $300k

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

It's done. Maybe I will try again next time. I am still leetcoding now.

VMware lftl00 Nov 15, 2019

Your recruiter was an idiot. Sorry.

Google GoLinks Nov 15, 2019

Seriously. Hurts that we lost good talent due to that (based on what OP has posted)

VMware lftl00 Nov 15, 2019

The only way it could’ve worked is OP joining on low TC and proving his worth and then asking for a significant raise / promo.

Uber tkdkn Nov 15, 2019

They only match Fb’s

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

Okay. I will make sure to interview at FB next time.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

My stats on Leetcode

Google GoLinks Nov 15, 2019

I realize you might be super frustrated because of putting so much effort in, doing well on interviews and still not getting what you expected but you made the right call. Keep your head high, do your best at the other company and try again in the future. You still increased your TC so it's not all bad! Think of it as making it to a very prestigious group of people who can say they turned down Google.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

Thank you!

IBM kacheek Nov 15, 2019

No signon? Wtf.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

Exactly....

Facebook dixy Nov 15, 2019

You deserve more. Try other companies.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

I will try FB next time. I was stupid that I didn't interview at FB.

Google manmohan Nov 15, 2019

That's a bit low.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

Exactly...

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

OMG.... I'm going to cry.

Google RefactorG Nov 15, 2019

There there, Op! Your recruiter looks incompetent.

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

I was very shocked when I first heard about the initial offer...... speechless.

Google slickdealr Nov 15, 2019

This is google cloud. Not google. What do u expect?

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

I thought they are Google? I guess I am wrong then. Thanks for the pointers.

Cisco PPlq31 Jun 26, 2020

Does Google Cloud pay worse than rest of Google?

Google Devil Nov 15, 2019

I wonder how you declined , were you rude ? TPM L4 can be pushed to 250 cause beyond that L5 starts . But still . Something is off .

Noodle.ai nRoS42 OP Nov 15, 2019

I was told about this initial offer through the phone. During the whole conversation, I appreciated her greatly throughout the process. I am a very polite person if you ask me. Anyway, thank you for your comments.

Google Devil Nov 16, 2019

This does not sound normal . I think you should apply at other positions and hopefully you get through with better TC