Google L4 offer SWE

Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
Feb 28, 2018 50 Comments

How is this offer?

5 years of work ex
Bay area:

164k base
415k stock for four years
15k joining bonus

15% target bonus

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  • Microsoft PicPocToc
    Ask for more if you have a competing offer
    Feb 28, 2018 7
    • Capital One / Product ~hotdog
      What if you fake a competing offer? Say you got Lyft offer with 175k base and 600k stocks without actually getting one.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      @capital one, some people do that successfully, others get screwed up when recruiter wants to see the offer.

      I personally hate lying, will never do that.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Capital One / Product ~hotdog
      Just curious. I wouldn’t do that but when they match anything, you can push for realistic numbers you want to get by bluffing. I recently negotiated an offer but felt I came little on the lower end when I said I wasn’t fishing.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Salesforce yOBl76
      @microsoft do recruiters ask for hard proof if you talk about competing offers?
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Pure Storage oiuytr
      I had 9 competing offers and I negotiated with everyone. Nobody asked me for proof. I only used real numbers
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Cisco yUYw72
    1.6 million in stock is pretty good.
    Feb 28, 2018 6
    • Google graphicsma
      I think it is 400k vesting over four years
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      Yeah it vests over 4 years. 1.6M would be insane.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Yelp CCWho
      They’ll either think you are stupid or you want to play dirty with them
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Chill guys. Cisco doesn’t usually get stock so he doesn’t know that a 4 year vesting period is pretty much implied on offers
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Square / Eng SQ
      👆
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google graphicsma
    Very good L4 offer. Might be able to get a bit more in joining bonus
    Feb 28, 2018 6
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      Is 50 sign-on a reasonable number to ask?
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google graphicsma
      You could ask. I doubt you'll get it. I squeezed 30k.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      Thanks, solid opinion.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Pure Storage oiuytr
      My L3 offer was lower salary (130k), 440k in RSUs, and 50k sign on
      Feb 28, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng TaFP36
      Seriously $440k in RSUs for L3?
      Mar 8, 2018
  • Google / Eng blazebuild
    Respectable base I would recommend you get competing offers to get more RSUs tho. My comp (5yr exp joined a few months ago as SWE L4):

    165k base
    600k GSUs (over 4 years)
    50k sign on
    Feb 28, 2018 6
    • Google / Eng blazebuild
      Just the usual suspects (barring pre-ipo companies)
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google dllrj45
      I got this same offer in 2016
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google / Eng blazebuild
      @dll $600k worth of GSUs or 600 GSUs?
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google dllrj45
      750 GSUs. 2 yrs of experience
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      Definitely need strong competing offers to get your numbers.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Microsoft MaeR14
    Congratulations! This is the first offer without any negotiation or after negotiations? Did you have any counter offers ?
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      No counter offers. This is second offer. Interviews went well.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google / Eng jgix9z
    This is a bit higher than mine was. L4, PhD, 4 years exp.
    Feb 28, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
    Your numbers are very close to mine: base 165, RSU 450, no cash sign-on.
    Feb 28, 2018 4
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      What is your level, profile and workex? Congrats btw
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      L4 SWE, PhD + 4.5 years experience.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      Yes, our case is unbelievably close.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google / Eng Bsbbam
    Good offer. Better than my current compensation.
    Feb 28, 2018 3
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      Thanks, you at L4?
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google / Eng Bsbbam
      Yes
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Google / Eng Alpha Zero
      Same here. Better than my current comp.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google eung41
    Everything except joining is above average L4 offer.. overall almost as good as it can get for L4
    Feb 28, 2018 2
    • Google / Eng blazebuild
      I realized that after joining the Google Blind lounge. This also means that if I don't get a promo within 2yrs I'll have to go-to Facebook/Netflix otherwise I'll have a massive dip in comp after year4
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Qualcomm / Eng GoHiking
      What's the average cash sign-on for L4 offer?
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google djbrjd
    Even with a single promo you'll get a big dip. L5 refreshers are below 150k,. it's more of L6 level.
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Google / Eng blazebuild
      Well fuck. Looks like I'll need to head to FB in 2yrs as L5 somehow.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google GingerBell
    Is this for SWE?
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Fhrexhdqsf
      OP
      Yes, will update the thread. Thank you for asking.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Google / Eng RaMO01
    This is much much more than my newly promoted L4 salary.
    Mar 4, 2018 0
  • Google @:$!,83$;!
    Better than mine...
    Feb 28, 2018 0

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