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Undisclosed HowzThat!
Nov 27

How is this Google offer for 3.25 years of experience? Google matched my competitive offer from another company and not budging for any higher.
Should I go back to first company and ask for higher comp, I said verbal yes to them so I don’t want to negotiate further with them.

145k base, 295k GSUs, 65k sign-on. Level is L3.

Recruiter is saying I will get target bonus always. Is bonus guaranteed at Google?

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  • Google 🍰 bake
    I haven’t heard of an L3 base that high. Pretty strong offer overall. Bonus is based on performance. Higher ratings mean higher bonus. Getting less than meets expectation means lower bonus.
    Nov 276
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      Do people usually get lower bonus? Is meets expectations always 15% or that is also higher?
      Nov 27
    • Google 🍰 bake
      Very unusual to get lower bonus
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      Safely assume you will get atleast 15% bonus. Unless you really screw up ratings, which iscrare
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      Is rare*
      Nov 27
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      That’s good to know. Is 18-20% more common for meets expectation?
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      Meets is 15. Exceeds is 18-20, strongle exceeds is a bit more thn 20
      Nov 27
  • Citibank Slurpsurp
    3.25 years? Really? Why not just state this in months or weeks? Lol
    Nov 271
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      I didn’t want to round it to 3 😄
      Nov 27
  • Facebook Facebuck
    3.25 years of experience and getting L3 .. why don’t you ask for L4?
    Nov 277
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      I asked but they are saying ‘high L3’ which I know is bullshit! My current company is Tier 3.
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      Yes it is very very high L3
      Nov 27
    • Facebook Facebuck
      I was making less than it when I was E4 (L4 equivalent at FB) 😂
      Nov 27
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      By high L3 I meant level wise. Which I think doesn’t help in promo. A L3 is L3 regardless.
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      Wont help in promo. You still need to compete with regular L3s for promo
      Nov 27
    • Google Mr.sundar
      You'll most likely be at this level for 1.5 years. Your salary is in L4 band. You should definitely ask for L4
      Nov 28
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      They are not negotiating level. I am fine with level as long as yearly increments are not bad.
      Nov 28
  • Intel Ggfg
    Very high offer for an l3.
    Do you mind sharing which group/org and what's the nature of the role?
    Nov 271
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      This is for one ML based team. What is your offer?
      Nov 27
  • Google zss
    For L3, it is super high offer. Downside is your base wont change much even after L4 promo. This base is towards higher side of L4. So expect base to change only after L5 promo, which is far away
    Nov 276
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      How much to expect? What is the max base for L4? I was expecting about 4-5% increase every year. Is that too much?
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      I think 150ish is L4 max. There are L5s at ~155. So dont expect much. I guess they will first tell u that no increase till u go to L4. Once you reach L4, then also low inc, as its on high side
      Nov 27
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      That’s bad to know! I was given option to choose 140 base and more stocks, let me ask my recruiter if that’s doable now.
      Will I get more refreshers/bonus to compensate this loss?
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      What loss? They will treat it as if you were hired at unusually high comp. Once you are in, it all depends on your level, perf. Doesnt matter what initial grant you got.
      Nov 27
    • Google zss
      If you were given high rsu at joining, doesnt mean they will ding you at refresher time. If given low rsu at join, doesnt mean u get high refreshers
      Nov 27
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      Loss as in base raises. It looks like L4 will take 2 years so no comp adjustment apart from refreshers.
      Nov 27
  • Google Ògún
    Very strong offer. People usually get slightly higher bonus, like 18-20%. Bonus is guaranteed.
    Nov 272
    • Undisclosed HowzThat!
      OP
      Is this dependent on team as well? Do ML/Ads/Cloud gets higher?
      Nov 27
    • Google Ògún
      Not in general no.
      Nov 27
  • Google gil
    You gave a verbal yes to the other company? You are a bastard.
    Dec 30
  • Undisclosed HowzThat!
    OP
    Anyone could please help me regarding comp negotiation? Can Google go higher than this for this level? They already matched my another offer.
    Nov 280
  • Google zss
    Looks like so
    Nov 270

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