Google Program Manager Offer
I recently received an offer for a Program Manager (Non-Technical) role in NYC. I have 9 years experience and was told I was approved for L4. I am currently a senior program manager at a reputable tech/streaming company. Is this level low for my experience and is this a reasonable offer? The offer: Base: 130k Target Bonus: 15% Stock: $180k The salary is less than I am currently making and the stock is less than I would be walking away from if I were to stay. I would like to join Google but want to make sure I am getting a fair offer and we are not misaligned on the level/experience. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sometimes you just take a shorter term pay cut for longer term benefit. There are trade offs. Google brand just like other big tech companies will help you multiple times until you retire. Don’t tell this to the google recruiter though. I would negotiate hard though
Agree with the other Googler. This is a strong offer for PgM II.
Do you agree with 9 years of experience I would be a PgM II? Additionally, I previously freelanced at Google for over 2 years. So I do have some working knowledge of the company coming in.
Level is dictated by interview performance and the role they are trying to fill. Not YOE.
As a hiring manager, my perception is that they've been intentionally trying to raise the bar for job levels lately, to the point of under-leveling experienced candidates. My guess is that it's happening because Google is allergic to middle management and is fighting hard to preserve its historically and notably flat hierarchy. It's not cool. We're losing great candidates left and right to far better offers both from other but tech companies and even forms in other industries. Something needs to give.
As a former employee, my perception is that Google NYC fails to understand the value external hires bring frequently. A key point when I was interviewing: I described Sales Engineering and Professional Services. No one on my interview panel had heard the terms. The recruiter (in Sales) hadn't either (gasp!). The problem: Google Enterprise / for Work / Cloud has SEs and PS today. The group I was interviewing with did too (ah? fail much?), just 1% of the org.
High end offer. You can try to negotiate but it probably won't go much higher. So either take the offer or just decline FWIW I got a pay cut on my base salary joining Google, but after a year it evened out, and I ended up making even more anyway due to equity refreshers.
You can interview with comparable tech companies and negotiate from there.
@damlo - what did you end up doing? And was the 180k equity across 4 years?
Did you have any sign on bonus?
Hi Damlo20! Any chance you can recall what were the topics of your interviews or any questions? I'm preparing for non-tech PM interview with g00gle and would love any advice from people who were there:)
This is on the high end of pgm L4