HousingApr 27, 2019
Googleiirving

Have non-SWEs been priced out of the Bay Area housing market?

Feels like it. Both wife are in non-tech roles. Our household TC is ~$400K, but homes in good school districts just seem so out of reach for anyone not making Software Engineering salary. Can't find any homes in decent shape, with a semblance of a backyard, in good neighborhoods for less than $1.7-1.8M. Where are non-tech people buying homes in the Bay Area these days?

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LinkedIn comeAndGo Apr 27, 2019

Even most SWEs are priced out

Amazon fHUg57 Apr 27, 2019

Texas

Google spmn Apr 27, 2019

Big, has yard, nice quality, reasonable commute. Pick 2.

LinkedIn iManage Apr 28, 2019

You forgot price

Uber Tormundd Apr 27, 2019

Non working spouse, I work in Tech and a kid. We’ll never be able to afford anything in or near peninsula. We’re considering to move to East coast closer to family.

Apple hakunanaMa Apr 27, 2019

What’s your tc? My wife no working n baby on the way but I have 280k saving, so doesn’t look unachievable to go for 800-900k house-in sjc

Uber Tormundd Apr 28, 2019

It’s around $250K (most of it been pre-ipo equity) and have saved up $350K in non retirement savings. I think I’m risk-averse.

Bose justme2k19 Apr 27, 2019

At 400k Tc without kids if u have 20% down there is no issues with buying a 1.6M home

Google iirving OP Apr 27, 2019

Is this some kind of a rule of thumb? As long as you can put down 20%, you can afford a home 4 times your TC?

LinkedIn Kwofjrjw Apr 27, 2019

28/36 rule. As in your monthly mortgage payment should not exceed 28% of your gross monthly income. So you can easily afford it technically. Just depends how comfortable you feel about it.

Facebook public2 Apr 27, 2019

Nontech, peninsula.

Google spmn Apr 27, 2019

What role

Oracle aham Apr 27, 2019

What's your household TC?

Microsoft moromori Apr 27, 2019

They don’t. Have to let go of the idea of single detached home ownership.

Amazon gtj5d Apr 27, 2019

My rule is simpler: See what you are paying for rent. Don't buy a home unless interest+taxes+hoa+insurance is less than you were paying for rent (overall payment may be more by the amount going to principle). If renting is cheaper keep saving until owning is cheaper. Edit: also subtract net tax deduction from the home cost, net being the amount over the standard deduction you otherwise might have gotten

LinkedIn taaaa Apr 27, 2019

This

Facebook public2 Apr 27, 2019

That works but for many home ownership is a lifestyle choice as well either for comfort (people usually buy a nicer home than they rent) or risk aversion (rent is lower but likely to rise, mortgage is fixed)

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hqWe60 Apr 27, 2019

they rent

Oracle aham Apr 27, 2019

And then vent.

LinkedIn 黃帝 Apr 27, 2019

Non-tech people haven’t been buying for years

Facebook public2 Apr 27, 2019

The vast majority of my street is nontech, super small sample size but for what it's worth!

LinkedIn 黃帝 Apr 27, 2019

Yeah but when were they buying